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shllymoss
11-07-16, 16:55
Hello Finlanders. I have been searching without success for my Finnish relatives and have not been able to find them outside of America. My 2nd great Grandmother was Anna G Hendrickson born in 1871 or 1872. Her immigration date is listed as different years in US census records 1882, 1887 and 1890 are dates listed. My 2nd Great Grandfather was Mat/Matt/Matthew/Matts (middle initial is either S or L both are listed in records) Hillman/Hellman born in 1859 or 1860. He also has several immigration dates given in US Census 1884 or 1887 are both listed. They were married in Ontario canada in 1891. My Great Grandmother Nelvin Alice Hillman was their first child born in Superior, Wisconsin followed by William (1893) Anna H (1896) Hilda (1897) Florence Teckla Hillman in 1902. They lived the rest of their lives in Superior Wisconsin. Any help would be a blessing.

BessemerFinn
12-07-16, 02:25
There is a Finnish Genealogy Group on Facebook...wherein a recent search for Matt Hillman produced the following results...

Matts Leander Hellman born on 13 Oct 1859 to Bd. Johan Hellman and Anna (age 35) in Kokkola. -Information from Hiski

The Matts Leander Hellman referred to could have been born to a shoemaker Johan Hellman in Såka, Karleby, married 17 Nov 1839 to Anna Greta Koski. They had 6 or 7 children.

Immigrants from Ostrobothnia: HELLMAN, Matts Leander
b. 13 Oct 1859, Karleby, Finland To USA 1882
Declared dead 1 Jan 1950 http://sydaby.eget.net/swe/edb_h.htm

Matts Leander Hellman, birth record http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=8284375
Witnesses. Farmer's son Matts Mattsson Tuomisalo, wife Lena, young man Matts Andersson Domars(?) and young girl/house maid Lovisa Simonsdotter Backa(?). Babtised by A.W.Chydenius.

Hellman family in Såka, Karleby. Father Johan b. Sept 4, 1812 d. Jun 2, 1866, mother Anna Greta Jakobsdotter Koski b. Jun 8, 1815 and their children. http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=23407805

BessemerFinn
12-07-16, 02:32
hmmmmm...did you post that query on fb???

shllymoss
12-07-16, 22:56
Yes, I have. I have joined several different Finnish Genealogy groups on the web and FB. I have my fingers crossed.

shllymoss
12-07-16, 23:24
I have looked into this couple, I found Johan and Anna on the LDS website. Johan died in 1866, with Matts being the youngest son and losing his father so young that is certainly a good reason for him to immigrate. I am confused about the dates though...Johan birthdate is given as July of 1812 and Anna is born in 1815 which makes her much older than 35 in 1859. I have also found this Matts Leander with the birthdate of 1960 (which is the most common listed) in an article about Halsua River Island 60 miles from Kokkula.

Matts Johansson, 1796
Johan Mattson (s.27.3.1826) and his wife Kaisa (b. 3/15/1829) received eight children, three of whom died. Kaisa himself died as a child to bed 33 years old (1862). Children order: Matts s.20.2.1847, Lena Kaisa s.5.5.49, Johan 12/10/1851, Karl s.18.12.1854, Elias s.24.5.1857 +, Leander s.1.5.8.1858 +, Brita Sofia p. 02.07.1860, Maria Lovisa s.24.2.1862 +. Maria Lovisa last of the children died at the age of 13 days. Johan died himself four years later at the age of 40. Seem to have changed rowan wife's home farm.
Matts Mattson (s.31.1.1829) and his wife Greta Sanna Aleksandersdr (s.12.4.1832) had five children of whom one died. Children: Maja Lisa s.24.1.1853, Alexander s.12.5.1854, Sanna 26.6.1855+, Mariana s.16.8.1857, Matts Leander s.xx.xx.1860 and Hilma Gustava 1863. They moved to Greta's home to replace the Pollara . Only Mariana announced born Loka Zoo
The house also lived in Anna Maria Samuelsdr s.29.4.1790 (widow?). Died in 1877.
House books can also be found mention of rengistä: Abraham Abrahamsson s.1833 Lestijärvi. Become Teerijärvi 1855 (Afgätt 1856).
Mariana (s.1831) married (Maag = in-law), Anders Pehrsson Ahlbäck (s.3.6.1827) with. They had five children: Anna Lisa s..2.4.1850, Johan August s.20.3.1851, Maria mathilda s.18.6.1857, Selma Gustava s.1.4.1860, Mariana s.12.11.1862. The family moved to Perho .
http://fi.opasnet.org/fi/Lokasaaren_suku

You all are such a blessing, I have been looking for over a decade. I am so grateful for your help.

BessemerFinn
13-07-16, 15:58
to answer your question about Anna's age at the time Matts Leander was born...sometimes, mistakes are made in the parish books...

here is a link to a page at SSHY, from Kaarlela Communion Book 1866-1872, showing the family of Johan Hellman at the farm Såka by 11, Porko: http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kaarlela/rippikirja_1866-1872_mko169-179/287.htm

BessemerFinn
13-07-16, 16:49
Kaarlela Communion Book, 1859-1865: http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kaarlela/rippikirja_1859-1865_mko152-168/202.htm

1843-1851: http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kaarlela/rippikirja_1843-1851_mko124-136/279.htm Johan Hellman shown here with the patronymic Mariasson, so he must have been born out of wedlock...wife Anna Greta Jacobsdr, born 8.6.1815, came from Lochteå in 1839...

1836-1842: Johan, born 7.9.1812; shown here as the illegitimate son of the widow Maria Peldo...?, born 28.9.1770; died at this farm, 17.10.1841. Maria also had a daughter Lisa, born 1882; and son Anders, born 1819, out of wedlock. Johan can next be found on page 186 in this same book: http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kaarlela/rippikirja_1836-1842_mko114-123/185.htm

Page 186, 1836-1842: Johan shown here with wife Anna Greta Jacobsdr and daughter Maria Sofia: http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kaarlela/rippikirja_1836-1842_mko114-123/186.htm

BessemerFinn
13-07-16, 17:19
Anna Greta Jacobsdr Koski, 1839 move out of Lochteå (right page, number 29): http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/muuttaneet_1833-1871_mko362-365/16.htm

Lochteå (Lohtaja) Communion Book, 1834-1842: Anna Greta, born 8.6.1815: http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1834-1842_uk518/71.htm

BessemerFinn
13-07-16, 17:29
about the Matts Leander born in 1860...different person...

shllymoss
13-07-16, 21:33
I am trying to decipher the names of Anna Greta's parents...looks like Jacob Johnson 1792 and Susanna Mattsdr 1795 ? Is that correct?

shllymoss
13-07-16, 21:37
I am amazed by what you have managed to find. I am so thankful to you both, Alan and June. I am so excited to share this with my Mother. She will be equally thrilled. Thank you.

shllymoss
13-07-16, 22:22
How do you suppose he came by the name Hellman?

BessemerFinn
14-07-16, 04:23
Anna Margaretha (Greta), born 8.6.1815, Wälikanus, Lohtaja; parents Jacob Johansson and Susanna Mattsdr: http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/syntyneet_1815-1836_mko404-411/6.htm

Jacob Johansson Kekolahti was born 14.9.1792 (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/76kt67?en+0301+kastetut+6531 maybe); Susanna Mattsdr Koski was born 11.8.1795 (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/76kt4b?en+0301+kastetut+6961)

HisKi shows them married 18.3.1815, Lohtaja: http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/76kt4b?en+0301+vihityt+1594

Lohtaja Communion Book, 1810-1816, Wälikannus by, Koski: Susanna Mattsdr, born 11.8.1795, shown at top of page with parents (Matts Johansson and Anna Andersdr) and siblings; also shown below with husband Måg (son-in-law) Jacob Johansson Kekolahti, born 14.9.1792; and daughter Anna Greta, born 8.6.1815: http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/lohtaja/rippikirja_1810-1816_uk157/53.htm

HillmanDaughter
08-10-16, 21:43
Is it possible to respond privately? Thanks. I am wondering if this family is my line as well.

BessemerFinn
09-10-16, 18:23
Yes...you can send a private message to any other registered member of this Forum...

shllymoss
28-03-17, 23:01
Of course....my email is shllymoss%40yahoo.com. It would be easier if you went that route I do not get on here often.