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Karen Norwillo
11-08-17, 16:06
I'd like to verify that these are all the same man.
Matts Jakobsson was born 29.2.1780 Mattbäck farm, Bäckby, Esse. Married 1802 to Margareta Josephsdotter from Ena farm. When she died 1814, he married Majalisa Johansdotter from Naars farm in Purmo. He was listed as from Långholm farm at that time. They lived on Stenbacka farm in Purmo. When Majalisa died 1821, he married Lisa Andersdotter from Bonds farm. She died 26.8.1833 on Bonds farm, he died Sep 1833 on Sandberg farm, Purmo. Are all these Matts Jakobsson the same man?
Karen

Jaska Sarell
11-08-17, 23:45
Same man, but some details need to be rechecked.
Matts Jakobsson and family moved in June 1814 from Esse to Långholm farm in Kovjoki, Nykarleby. Hence Långholm.
With new marriage he moved with children to his 2nd wife's home farm Stenbacka in Purmo. She's not from Naars, but here at Stenbacka: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9036455 - her birth details are missing or erroneous.
[Majalisa Johansdr Naars married Jonas Eriksson Slip in 1811].

I had lost track of family after 1830: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9036798
But indeed they are later at Sandberg as "backstuguhjon": http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9037025
Thanks for pointing that out!

:) Jaska

Karen Norwillo
12-08-17, 03:20
Jaska,
Thank you so much. I found two conflicting dates of birth for wife #2. I will go back and see if I can straighten her out.
Karen

Karen Norwillo
12-08-17, 15:40
Jaska,
Here's what I found. On Purmo births for 3 Aug 1792 they have Majalisa (Maria Elisabeth) as born to Carl Johansson Skut and Anna Mattsdotter, but on the closest rippi after that birth and until marriage, she is in the household of Johan Mattsson and Lisa Jakobsdotter. Both Johan and Carl are on the Stenbacka farm. Some of the births found for Johan and Lisa are recorded as Skut and some as Stenbacka. I don't know where Skut came from; I found no Skut farm. I'm thinking she was recorded in error at her birth??
Karen

Jaska Sarell
12-08-17, 22:21
Yes, I also think that she has been recorded with incorrect parents.
It seems that Skut and Stenbacka are names for the same farm after it was established, later only Stenbacka prevails. There's also a family of Jonas Johansson (Jonas Sten) and Sara Mattsdotter with children's births recorded at Skut/Skutas/Stenback/Stenbacka.

:) Jaska

Karen Norwillo
13-08-17, 03:08
Thank you.
Karen