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Karen Norwillo
08-10-17, 18:39
I have Brita Lisa born 12 Oct 1793 Sund, Kyrkoby, Pedersöre. Two of the Finne brothers both show her ? as wife. Matts Mattsson Finne married a Brita Lisa Eriksdr. Sund 2 Dec 1817. Then I show Lars Mattsson Finne marriage 19 Nov 1820 to Lisa Eriksdotter Sund. Is this the same person..? I couldn't find a Lisa Eriksdotter Sund. Any help appreciated. I now have full subscription to FFHA, but those marriage years aren't available.
Karen

Anteroinen
08-10-17, 21:01
The life of Brita Lisa in communion books:

Pedersöre, Kyrkoby, Sund
1792-1795: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9585356
1803-1803: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=24317161 (note that Brita is connected to Matts Mattsson Finne on page 405: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=24317369)
1803-1817: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9585600
Pedersöre, Ytter Purmo, Finne
1818-1818: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9585914 (note the connection to Matts Mattsson with a circle)
Pedersöre, Nedre Katternö, Edseveö, Rif
1820-1826: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9586096
1826-1826: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9586291
Pedersöre, Kyrkoby, Storkäld, torp
1827-1832: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9586849 (mention of Matts having been in court (häradsrätt), I think for "skuffning" [a fight]. The family takees the name Björklund [Birchgrove])

At this point I unfortunately lose them, but this definitely confirms that Brita Lisa marries Matts Mattsson NOT Lars.

Karen Norwillo
08-10-17, 22:43
Thank you. I had found the marriage definitely to Matts, but I can't seem to find the Lisa Eriksdotter Sund who married Lars 19 Nov 1920. Here's the marriage image found on digi.narc.fi. Maybe that will help with a clue. Could the surname be Lund?
Karen

Karen Norwillo
09-10-17, 00:08
Can anyone read the notation to the left of Lars entry in the 1820 rippi for Finne farm?

Anteroinen
09-10-17, 20:00
The wedding record says says: "B. S. Lars Mattsson Finne och pigan Lisa Eriksdr Sunds. Utan skrud, på Kosenlund af Presten Jacob J. Chydenius." [Farmer's son Lars Mattsson Finne and the maid Lisa Eriksdotter from Sund. Without a wedding dress, in Rosenlund (N.B. the priests home), by the priest Jacob. J. Chydenius.]

Here is a better view of the comment next to Lars Mattsson Finne:

http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9586274

It seems like it has two page numbers, 207 and one crossed out 442. The page 442 refers to a torp of the Sund house in Kyrkoby of Pedersöre, where we can see Lisa Eriksdotter, born in 1798: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=9586459

I suppose they crossed the first out, since the pair moved from Sund. The page number 207 is quite unusual, since it appears to refers to the page number in Pietarsaari (Jakobstad) communion book! See here: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=7152690

They're under the name Björklund, which we also saw Matts take, so I am definitely sure these two are the right ones. Lars is a sjöman, sailor. They live in Pietarsaari at least until Lars dies (probably while on his travels, since no burial record can be found) in 1834: http://digi.narc.fi/digi/view.ka?kuid=7153129

I also found Matts and Brita Lisa in Pietarsaari in HisKi: http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/8dgv08?fi+0398+haudatut+4283

Karen Norwillo
09-10-17, 22:29
Thank you again for the help. I had found the deaths of Matts and Brita Lisa using your earlier clue of Björklund. I appreciate your help.
Karen