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jwarmanen
01-06-04, 00:04
I'm looking for information on my grandfather, Johan Hjalmar Wahlberg (Warmanen), who was born in Finland in 1874 and emigrated to the U.S. in 1899. I know that he spent many years as a merchant seaman before he made the U.S. his permanent home. His last European city of residence was Hull, England, where he was working as a seaman. He married Hanna Lindholm, an 1893 emigre from Sweden, in New York City in 1899. Any additional information anyone can give me would be much appreciated. Thank you.
Judy Warmanen
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granskare
01-06-04, 00:12
at Faith Lutheran church in Calumet, MI
on page 63:
Johan Hj. Warmanen, born: Jun 14, 1874 at Närpes - unknown immigration date.
Your date is Jan so my date is likely my misreading of the book. It will be rechecked. Hj. is presumably Hjalmar.
wife is Johanna Matilda f. Lindholm, born Nov 17 1867 at Elim which I took to be Finland and also no immigration date. I will recheck on her because my list should have just Finnish born people.
I will check the film for further info about children, if they moved elsewhere, etc.

Chuck

jwarmanen
01-06-04, 16:51
Thanks for your help.
According to Ellis Island records, Johanna Lindholm's immigration date was 1893, six years before Johan's in 1899. I know that the couple had at least seven children, three of whom died in a diphtheria epidemic in Alaska when Johan was the pastor of a church at Douglas, Alaska. The four surviving children were Phyllis, Signe, Phillip and Egis (my father), all of whom have passed away.
Incidentally, Johan was the son of Fabian and Maria Wahlberg.
What I'm interested in finding out is when Johan changed his name from his birth name, Wahlberg, to Warmanen and if his parents also changed their name. Family lore says they did, but I have no information to substantiate that claim. Knowing when the name change occurred would help me to locate the rest of my relatives.
Thank you again for your quick response to my posting.
Judy Warmanen

jwarmanen
01-06-04, 16:52
Forgot to tell you that Johanna Lindholm was born in Sweden. Thought you'd like to know.
Judy Warmanen

syrene
01-06-04, 18:33
Dear Judy,
I think your relative must have been the pastor of Emmaus Lutheran church of the Swedish Finnish Lutheran Synod in Seattle WA, while my mother was very young. It would have been around 1917-1921. Their pastor Warmanen had been up at Douglas also. As a matter of fact, the Warmanen's roomed with my mother's parents on Sycamore Street east of Ballard, near the Woodland Park Zoo. At least until they got a home of their own. The children were some older than my mother's siblings, from what her older sister can remember.
Syrene

jwarmanen
01-06-04, 19:52
Syrene,
Yes, my grandfather was pastor of the church in Seattle. At that time my grandparents would have had four children, the youngest of whom was my father, Egis. The other children were Phyllis, Signe and Phillip. From Seattle the family went on to International Falls, MN, and Hettinger, ND. Thank you for replying to my posting.
Judy Warmanen

granskare
01-06-04, 19:58
Hi Judy,
I learned from the church roll that he was a lutheran pastor so I also fotocopied the bio from Bergendoff's ministerium book and also from Korsbaneret which is in Swedish so maybe somebody can help with that.
With this posting, I will put a copy of the membership page online for everybody to see and then the swedish in the following post.

Chuck

granskare
01-06-04, 19:59
The copy

jwarmanen
01-06-04, 20:22
Thank you. I'm very glad to receive the copy of the church roll. I have a copy of Korsbaneret, which was handed down from my grandfather to my father, but am unable to translate the Swedish as accurately as I'd like to. I can muddle through it a bit because I have studied German and there are a few similarities between the languages. If someone can help with the translation, that would be wonderful. You have been very kind. Thank you!
Judy

staffan
01-06-04, 20:49
Apparently the recently (May 26, 2004) published article by Maria Enckell including biographical notes about pastor Johan Hjalmar [Wahlberg] Warmanen at http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/art/article409e.htm#a52 is so new that it has not yet been noticed by anybody.

According to Enckell Hanna Mathilda Lindholm was born in Lovisa, Finland.


Regards,

jwarmanen
01-06-04, 20:58
I came across that article last Friday. According to other information I have, Hannah Lindholm was born either in Lovisa or Elim, Finland. Thank you for your help.
Judy Warmanen

staffan
01-06-04, 21:17
Elimo is known as the name of a village in the municipiality of Pojo, western Nyland and Lovisa is a city in eastern Nyland - both in south Finland. I was not able to find a place name Elimo in the vicinity of Lovisa.

jwarmanen
01-06-04, 22:03
Thanks for your help. I'll investigate further.
Judy

Hasse
01-06-04, 22:13
There is a municipality named Elimä or Elimäki north east from Borgå which maybe could be the place you're looking for - at least it is nearer the town of Lovisa.

Hasse
01-06-04, 22:20
Here is a map of the area above.

jwarmanen
01-06-04, 22:58
Thank you. I'm getting a much better idea of where my grandparents came from. Is Tofsala another name for Taivassalo? I have records indicating that my grandfather was born in either Taivassalo or Tofsala.
Judy

Hasse
01-06-04, 23:02
Yes, Töfsala is the Swedish name for Taivassalo.

Kaj Granlund
01-06-04, 23:25
A rough translation of his obit:
John Hjalmar Warmanen
Was born of finnish birth the 14 of Januari 1874 in Töfsala, Finland. He arrived at an age of 25 years to USA and entered the same year the matrimony with Mathilda Lindholm from New York. For some time he worked at the Finnish seamens church in New York, until he in 1890 was ordained by the Finnish National Synod, and moved to Fredrick Brown county South Dacota. Her he carried out his forst congregation work and stayed until 1903 when he moved to Calumet, Michigan. From 1906 until 1908 he was a member of the editorial staff of a finnish newspaper, at the same time he studied privately for the pastor N.J. Forsberg of the Augustana synod. In 1908 he was ordained by the Augustana synod, and became the missionary pastor of the synod in Alaska 1908-1913, pastor in the Emmaus congregation in Seattle, Washington, 1913-1921 International Falls-Loman, Minnesota, and Fort Francis, Canada 1921 – 1924, Hettinger, North Dakota 1924 – 1933. The last year he had to withdraw cause of a weakening health. He was treated for some time at the Bethesda Hospital in St. Paul, Minnesota and then at a centre at St.Peter, same state, where he died 21 april 1934. The funeral was held on sunday in First Lutheran church in St. Peter, officiated by dr. O.J. Johnson, dr. V.H. Hegström and pastor V.E. Beck. His body was laid to rest at the cemetery of the congregation. He is sorrowed by his wife ant four children; Phyllis in San Francisco, Calif. Mrs C.L. Lithio in St.Paul. Minn, and the sons Philip in St. Paul and Egis in Jamestown, N. Dak. This servant of the Lord used his gifts on the missionary fields, where he willingly and joyfully shared the sorrows and shortcomings of the work, sowed the noble seed of the word of the Lord. May this be fruitful in many lives May his spirit now rest in peace.

jwarmanen
01-06-04, 23:39
Kaj,
Thank you for taking the time to translate my grandfather's obituary and to send me the translation. I'm very thankful for your kindness.
Judy Warmanen

syrene
02-06-04, 02:55
Enckell's article is excellent, and covers Douglas pastorates, and the lack of same in Sitka. I'm looking forward to seeing the Sitka Altarpiece display. Maria championed its return to the Lutheran church from the Russian Orthodox church there in Sitka. Took her 12 years to achieve the transfer. She has written most of the articles in the catalogue for the exhibit called Transfiguration.
Syrene

jwarmanen
02-06-04, 16:32
I thought Maria's article was excellent as well. On a personal level, I was glad to read the excerpts from my grandfather's diary and letters. It gave me a personal connection with him.
Judy

jeanette
03-06-04, 08:56
Hi Judy,

The Heritage Quest cd Scandinavians in the 1910 US Federal census has only the one Warmanen listing.
WARMANEN John H 36 yrs M b. Finland County 1-Division Locality Juneau T624-roll 1748 part 1 page 100 subpage B AK

Hope this helps you

Jeanette

jwarmanen
03-06-04, 16:35
Thank you.