PLEASE HELP!!! Stopsen, Stopson, Jokinen, Gikiere

[jstopson]

Please forgive me, I am very new to all of this but really need some help. I have been trying to find and research my history in Finland. It appears once they came to the US, the name changed. It was Stopsen, and now I find other records that are Stopson and now Gikiere has come up along with Jokinen.... I am very confused about this "name war" that I have read so much about. The last information that was shared with me was this...

First names Arvid
Age or age group 35
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination New York
State of destination NY
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 263
Ship from Finland Titania
Date of departure from Finland 07.01.1914
Ship from England Cedric
Date of departure from England 15.01.1914
Ocean Line White Star Line
Port of departure in England Liverpool
List and page 98/28
Remarks Vaasa!

I think he must have been a Swedish speaking Finn. But that isn't for sure by any means.... I am not even really sure what to do with this information. I aslo think that once he arrived in US, he and his brothers split and the "Stopsen" side doesn't know about us, the Stopson's. I know he was married twice (first wife died shorty after arriving here of illness) and he had children by both.
If anyone can give me some hints I would be very greatful. I have found my Grandfather and he still speaks Finnish and living here in the US. It is his father that was married twice that splits things up. I am a 32 year old single mother of 2 and really want to help my father and grandfather answer some long ago questions. Hopefully i will start to uncover many soon.

If you have any suggestions, please feel free to email me at jstopson%40cableone.net

Any suggestions would be great!!

[June Pelo]

I can't be of any help - have never seen the names Stopsen, Stopson or Gikiere, but I have one Jokinen name in my file: Urpo Jokinen, b. 20 Oct 1952 in Kangasala, Finland who married in 1983 to Susanne Elisabeth Hagström, b. 25 Aug 1951, probably in Karleby, Finland. I have no further information about this couple.

June

[granskare]

Welcome to sfhs and I hope you can get some help here.

Was New York City the ultimate destination of the immigrants?
If you know where they first lived, that could be important because other records with that state can be searched.

Chuck Maki

[jstopson]

First thank you so much for responding. I know that the three places were New York, Michigan, and Wyoming...

[granskare]

Hi Joy,
I have a database of Upper Peninsula Michigan Finnish born ppl which I transcribed from Swedish language church microfilm at Swenson Center here in town.
So if you have a town or county...

Chuck

[jstopson]

I think Urjala and Waasa
Looking for any names of Stopsen, Stopson, Jokinen, Ekroos, Gikiere, Gikaire

I really really appreciate everything. You have no idea how much this means....

[granskare]

hehe:) I meant a town or county in Michigan :)

I can check my UP counties database and see if there is anything there for you. These are mostly Swedish speaking churches but amongst them are 2 Finnish language churches.

Chuck

[jeanette]

Hi Joy,
The information you have is very helpful to you. It gives the date of departure from Finland. Knowing this you can more easily search Ellis Island Records for the arrival in America. This will be very helpful to you because it should tell you both where Arvid was heading and nominate a nearest living relative usually someone in Finland and often a parish can be found too.

Using the information you provided I looked up the Ellis Island Research Centre site and found.
Arvid Stopsen (spelt with an e) was headed to his brother Reinhold Stopsen 106 Brown St, Malley Hill?,Clarksburg, N.Va ??
In 1906 - Ohio , 1910 Odecia previous trips
Nearest relative Wife Hilda Stopsen
Wertin talo, Palosaari, Waasa

If you were to use all the names from the family and look at the Original manifests and look up the previous trips by Arvid you will
gain valuable information to help your research advance.
Here is the url for the American Family History Research Centre at Ellis Island.
http://www.ellisisland.org/

If you are unable to find Arvid as Stopson/Stepson/Stopsan/ Stopsen etc. try his patronymic (his fathers first name and add son) eg. Andersson, Jacobsson as he may have travelled under this name.

Once you have established the parish the online HisKi database at the Genealogical Society of Finland will be of help to you for births before 1855.

Best wishes
Jeanette

I noticed Kevin was better able to read the manifest than I was and have now amended the address.

[kpaavola]

Hi Joy,
Please see your other posting here:
http://finlander.eget.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1493

There are some goodies waiting for you there. :)

Also, be sure to visit www.familysearch.org and search on Stopsen. There are quite a few of them for Wyoming along with the others mentioned between these two postings.

[jeanette]

Hello again Joy,

A check of the Finnish Migration Institue shows these departure dates for Stopsén, Stopsen, etc.

Last name First names Date of departure
Stopsen Fanni 13.06.1906
Stopsen Johan 10.09.1913
Stopsén Arvid 07.01.1914
Stopsén Jenny 01.06.1901
Stopsén Renholt 30.11.1901

Hope these dates help with your search at Ellis Island.

Here is the url for the Finnish Immigration Institute
http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/emreg/ref_engsearch2.asp

If you wanted to join up they would have more information available than I have posted. Cost is €10 per annum.

Jeanette

[Karen Norwillo]

Joy, I think you already have this info re: Reinhold Stopsen, but I'll send it anyway. The 1920 Census has him listed as Reiner Stopsen, age 44, est. DOB 1875, Finland, living as a roomer in the home of David and Minerva Henderson in Sisteraville, Tyler, West Virginia. He works in a glass plant. Karen

[Alicia]

A bit of humor in the census for West Virginia,
Reiner is said born in Finland and speaks POLISH of all things.
I have seen this before in the census. Guess that in the South that Finnish or Swedish must have sounded Polish to them.
A few of my friends had a good laugh over that .
Alicia
:D

[Karen Norwillo]

Alicia, I saw that, too, and had a good laugh. Also wish they had made these census takers submit a sample of their handwriting before they sent them out. Some are just awful. Guess they weren't counting on us trying to read them years later. Karen

[Karen Norwillo]

Joy, Do you have any first names to go with the Jokinen surname? There are 325 entries on the 1930 census, 109 on the 1920, 43 in 1910, 3 in 1900 and 1 in 1870. I found 206 on the SSDI, 126 in the MN Death Index, 30 in Mass, 23 in MI and 22 in the CA Death Index. There are 40 in WWI Draft Registration. As far as the Gikiere name, all I found were of Belgian and French ancestry. Karen

[Alicia]

I had also happen to notice that there are some Finnish names in the Louisiana census for 1920. I did a list of them as a sample of
spelling.
Hindygain will one of those that are almost impossible to know who it really is.

Englund, Matt A Police Jury Ward 2, Allen, LA 1866 Finland White
Hood, John Police Jury Ward 5, Allen, LA 1870 Finland White
Anderson, Anders Police Jury Ward 6, Beaureguard, LA 1886 Finland White
Eynord, Fred Police Jury Ward 6, Beaureguard, LA 1880 Finland White
Hodson, Andrew Police Jury Ward 6, Beaureguard, LA 1881 Finland White
Jackson, Charley Police Jury Ward 6, Beaureguard, LA 1883 Finland White
Jackson, John Police Jury Ward 6, Beaureguard, LA 1881 Finland White
Petterson, Isak Police Jury Ward 6, Beaureguard, LA 1863 Finland White
Carlson, Authur Sweetville, Beaureguard, LA 1861 Finland White
Brich, Victor E De Quincy, Calcasieu, LA 1869 Finland White
Holquist, Ed De Quincy, Calcasieu, LA 1870 Finland White
Lillickurg, Matts E De Quincy, Calcasieu, LA 1852 Finland White
Forman, N Lackfort, Calcasieu, LA 1866 Finland White
Backlund, Otto Police Jury Ward 6, Calcasieu, LA 1864 Finland White
Kolander, John Police Jury Ward 6, Calcasieu, LA 1872 Finland White
Newmon, John Police Jury Ward 6, Calcasieu, LA 1868 Finland White
Charles, Rima Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1893 Finland White
Clyman, John Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1892 Finland White
Falck, Waino Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1886 Finland White
Falck, Waino Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1887 Finland White
G Karp, John Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1887 Finland White
Helaire, Emil Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1889 Finland White
Johnson, Andrew Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1877 Finland White
Lampi, Juttear Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1887 Finland White
Luhman, John Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1883 Finland White
Millin, Frank Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1879 Finland White
Pananen, Ansel Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1873 Finland White
Pentinen, David Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1891 Finland White
Pettman, Fannie Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1899 Finland White
Tullis, Olya Police Jury Ward 7, Iberia, LA 1895 Finland White
Lindquist, Fred Police Jury Ward 5, Iberville, LA 1860 Finland White
Wary, Alfred New Orleans, Jefferson, LA 1879 Finland White
Jakopson, Saml Police Jury Ward 10, Livingston, LA 1853 Finland White
Alta, Otto New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1893 Finland White
Andarson, Henry O New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1858 Finland White
Anderson, A V New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1859 Finland White
Anderson, Eric New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1859 Finland White
Anderson, Hendrick New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1895 Finland White
Aultaner, Michael New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1881 Finland White
Auttaner, M New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1881 Finland White
Brinllon??, E New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1869 Finland White
Cedarhaln, Hugoy New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1873 Finland White
Chem??ieat, Earl V New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1890 Finland White
Daelbon, Bertie New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1898 Finland White
Dawguirt??, John New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1896 Finland White
Ericksen, Peter New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1855 Finland White
Erickson, Charles New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1872 Finland White
Grandalef, G New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1895 Finland White
Helemus, F New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1885 Finland White
Hendrickson, Carl New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1894 Finland White
Hiltunen, S New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1896 Finland White
Hindygain, A New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1880 Finland White
Hirvanus??, Ottle New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1869 Finland White
Holgerson, Allan New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1893 Finland White
Ingvertain, Jigerman?? New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1897 Finland White
Jackola, Victor New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1895 Finland White
Johanson, George E New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1889 Finland White
Johnsen, C New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1868 Finland White
Johnsen, Otto A New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1880 Finland White
Johnson, Charles New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1870 Finland White
Johnson, Otto New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1885 Finland White
Kaki, John New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1886 Finland White
Kark, John New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1869 Finland White
Keeth, Martin New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1866 Finland White
Kirby, D New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1900 Finland White
Koski, Samuel New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1878 Finland White
Koski, William New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1899 Finland White
Kuski, E New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1898 Finland White
Lagernam, E New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1898 Finland White
Lalaness, P New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1895 Finland White
Leichman, John W New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1879 Finland White
Lendross, Edolph New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1884 Finland White
Leyer, Yoykler?? New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1884 Finland White
Luigi, M New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1884 Finland White
Magi, Carl New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1887 Finland White
Malin, E New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1894 Finland White
Menneri??, Alex New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1891 Finland White
Nanto, Karl New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1896 Finland White
Nickelsen, F New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1889 Finland White
Nuormen??, E New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1888 Finland White
Nyhonn, N G New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1897 Finland White
Olsman, T Y New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1891 Finland White
Ordele, A New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1893 Finland White
Patterson, John New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1874 Finland White
Rae, Thomas New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1890 Finland White
Rasmussen, Olaf New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1895 Finland White
Reed, Otto New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1858 Finland White
Rein, John New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1887 Finland White
Rierson, J New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1901 Finland White
Ruer, Andy New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1891 Finland White
Salo, George New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1890 Finland White
Salo, Mino New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1894 Finland White
Scheiestrom??, Fred New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1891 Finland White
Seedrik, Fred New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1883 Finland White
Segar, Willetar?? New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1884 Finland White
Sillampas, Orva New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1885 Finland White
Sillaupas, Oiva New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1885 Finland White
Sindberg, A New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1888 Finland White
Skogeter, R New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1898 Finland White
Smith, W New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1896 Finland White
Snedhohn??, W New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1881 Finland White
Stram, H New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1890 Finland White
Sundman, Aurelus New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1894 Finland White
Tall, C New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1875 Finland White
Thibauet, Oliver New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1899 Finland White
Titzeberg, John A New Orleans, Orleans, LA Finland White
Traberg, L New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1892 Finland White
Veben New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1894 Finland White
Velen, Enoch New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1893 Finland White
Vilo, John New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1884 Finland White
Wahlman, Waino New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1891 Finland White
Wickstrom, Ch New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1890 Finland White
Wickstrom, Charles New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1877 Finland White
Wiksbro, G New Orleans, Orleans, LA 1884 Finland White
Fedderson, John Police Jury Ward 8, Ouachita, LA 1880 Finland White
Bambury, Thomas W Police Jury Ward 9, Ouachita, LA 1895 Finland White
Tanzanern, Oscar Police Jury Ward 4, Plaquemines, LA 1889 Finland White
Mietda, John Camp Beauregard, Rapides, LA 1894 Finland White
Kesek, Enne Police Jury Ward 5, Red River, LA 1892 Finland White
Fuerst, Carl Delhi, Richland, LA 1874 Finland White
Davila, Ollie Police Jury Ward 9, St. James, LA 1873 Finland White
Deaney, Andrew Police Jury Ward 9, St. James, LA 1884 Finland White
Ellison, John Police Jury Ward 9, St. James, LA 1884 Finland White
Jakine, Victor Police Jury Ward 9, St. James, LA 1866 Finland White
Johson, Frank Police Jury Ward 9, St. James, LA 1857 Finland White
Jokine, Armo Police Jury Ward 9, St. James, LA 1896 Finland White
Matson, Mina Police Jury Ward 9, St. James, LA 1864 Finland White
Perala, Matt Police Jury Ward 9, St. James, LA 1873 Finland White
Siik, Enoch Police Jury Ward 4, St. Tammany, LA 1862 Finland White
Ackland??, William?? Donner, Terrebonne, LA 1882 Finland White

[granskare]

found at Swenson 234 = Champion Finnish Lutheran
Pos Given names Surname Other names Born Parish Em. Church
code: 11, 19, and 60 are page numbers while u=unaccompanied. The emigration date follows the parish name.
11? Johani Jokinen Oct 19 1864 Loimaa unk 234
and again with a slightly changed birthdate and given name:)
19u Juhani Jokinen Oct 17 1864 Loimaa 1893 234
found at Swenson S 14-3 = Gogebic Co,
Wakefield, Immanuel Lutheran
60h Elmer Jokinen Mar 18 1907 Finland unk S 14-3

So here are a couple of Jokinen guys - perhaps they are yours?

Chuck:)