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kpaavola
20-01-05, 04:12
I'm helping someone who somehow found my brother's address and mailed him a request for help with his genealogy. My brother barely knows his grandparents names ;) so he called me to help.

He's searching for a Matts Paavola who came to America ~1879/80 and settled in/around Ironwood, Michigan. He gave me a birthdate of 24 July 1863 in Pudasjärvi. Those records on HisKi end in 1755 so that's no help. I checked the Mormon website and came up with this, along with some checking on HisKi.
1. Matts Isaaksson Paavola b.7.22.1862 Pudasjärvi
2. Isaak Mattsson Paavola b.3.11.1821 Pudasjärvi
Anders Mattsson Paavola 16 AUG 1822 (brother)
3. Brita Andersdr Saarijärvi b.3.13.1825 Pudasjärvi
4. Matts Mattsson Paavola b.5.21.1762 d.10.11.1850
5. Margareta Jeremiasdr Riepula b.1.23.1779 d.8.20.1854 m.1820
6. .
7. .
8. Matts Henriksson Oinas b. 6.9.1732
9. Walborg Staffansdr Wäänäinen b. 10. 18.1730
....
16. Henric Påhlsson Oinas b.1.13.1701
...
18. Staffan Mattsson Wäänäinen b.6.9.1708


All these were in Pudasjärvi. I checked Talko and there are some Oinas in Pudasjärvi in one of the collections but it seems like it might be the generation of #16's father/grandfather.

Wondering if anyone recognizes any of these names and can provide verification of these individuals.

By the way, Matts Paavola was married to Kaisa Walpuriina Haanela (sp?) also from Pudasjärvi.

Any help is appreciated.

kpaavola
20-01-05, 04:15
Also, I wanted to ask if someone could check details on the following passenger and passport records on the Migration Institute site. Primarily looking for home parish of individual. This Anna Amanda Paavola would have been Matt's younger sister. My contact believes she was in her mid twenties when she immigrated around 1900.

I didn't find her on Ellis Island.

Passenger records
Paavola Amanda 28.03.1906
Paavola Amanda 22.11.1911
Paavola Anna 26.08.1899
Paavola Anna 03.06.1899
Paavola Anna 01.06.1901
Paavola Anna 28.03.1906

Passport record
Paavola Anna . .1870

staffan
20-01-05, 06:59
Kevin,

I can't find any good candidate but leave it to you to interpret the records.

Passenger records:
Paavola Amanda 28.03.1906
- no corresponding Amanda in the passport register
Paavola Amanda 22.11.1911
- no corresponding Amanda in the passport register

Paavola Anna 01.06.1901
- One Anna Brita from Oulainen got her passport in 1901
Last name
Paavola
First names
Anna Brita
Other names
Aho
Date of birth
. .1853
Marital status
3
Religion
Lut.
Occupation
Itsellisen lki
Home parish
Oulainen
Province
OU
Passport date
. .1901
Passport number
0
Passport valid (year:month)
5:0
Destination
Amerikka
Passport issued by
OU
Remarks
*

Paavola Anna 28.03.1906

- Nice fit with the Anna Liisa below from Pörtom/Pirttikylä
Detailed passport information
First names
Anna Liisa
Other names
*
Date of birth
. .1884
Marital status
1
Religion
Lut.
Occupation
Taloll. tr
Home parish
Pirttikylä
Province
VAA
Passport date
23.03.1906
Passport number
1543
Passport valid (year:month)
5:00
Destination
Amerikka
Passport issued by
VAA
Remarks
*

Paavola Anna 26.08.1899
-
Paavola Anna 03.06.1899

- Can the last Anna be the Anna below?
Passport record
Paavola Anna . .1870
Passport date 02.06.1899. Her home parish was Veteli. But she was married to Matti Paavola when they emigrated with destination Wardner. And her date of birth does not match her age in the passenger record.
Last name
Paavola

First names
Anna
Other names
*
Date of birth
. .1870
Marital status
2
Religion
*
Occupation
Taloll. vmo
Home parish
Veteli
Province
VAA
Passport date
02.06.1899
Passport number
0
Passport valid (year:month)
3:0
Destination
P-Amerikka
Passport issued by
KOK
Remarks
Ph mies Matts Nikolai s. 1871.

Detailed passenger information
Last name
Paavola

First names
Anna
Age or age group
27
Port of departure
Hanko
Place of destination
Wardner
State of destination
ID
Country of destination
USA
Price of ticket
FIM 434
Ship from Finland
Polaris
Date of departure from Finland
03.06.1899
Ship from England
*
Date of departure from England
. .9999
Ocean Line
Cunard Line
Port of departure in England
*
List and page
9/41
Remarks
Mk Matti Paavola.

Source: Institute of Migration http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/emreg/index_e.php

June Pelo
20-01-05, 22:15
Kevin,

Even though you probably aren't looking for Oinas, I have this:

Caisa Lisa Henriksdotter Oinas, b. 1805, d. 30 Mar 1855, married 24 Nov 1827, Karleby, to Jakob Johansson Lillkåla-Pulkkis, 1795-1866, from Karleby. Some of this is in the Caino-Torp book.

June

kpaavola
21-01-05, 02:15
Thanks for the replies!

June-I did find Oinas in the lineage while checking on the Mormon site and HisKi. I just don't know how valid this info is. I'll refer back to this post when I get to that point (if it goes that far).

Staffan-thanks for posting the passport records. None of these look like they fit. I'm curious though if there were any details about the 2 Amanda records I saw. Were you able to view the details and did either mention Pudasjärvi?

Again, thanks for the replies!

staffan
21-01-05, 10:19
Kevin,

In contrast to the passport register there are no records of the home parish in he passenger lists. For this reason the passport register is often more valuable as regard to tracing emigrants, but at the moment there are "only" 166 000 passport records versus 318 000 in the passenger database.

The home parish can often however be determined from the Ellis Island manifests if the emigrant entered at Ellis Island. Most of them did enter at Ellis Island.

I was able to find Amanda Paavola entering Ellis Island on April 16, 1906. She was from Kiukainen. Kiukainen is in Satakunta.
Incidentally the Anna Paavola from Pörtom is on the same list.

Below are the passenger list records of the Finland Steamship Company from the Emigrant Register http://www.migrationinstitute.fi/emreg/index_e.php for the two Amanda Paavola. On account of their different ages they are apparently two different persons.

Detailed passenger information
Last name
Paavola

First names
Amanda
Age or age group
21
Port of departure
Hanko
Place of destination
Boston
State of destination
MA
Country of destination
USA
Price of ticket
FIM 192
Ship from Finland
Polaris
Date of departure from Finland
28.03.1906
Ship from England
Ivernia
Date of departure from England
03.04.1906
Ocean Line
Cunard Line
Port of departure in England
*
List and page
48/95
Remarks
*


Detailed passenger information

First names
Amanda
Age or age group
20
Port of departure
Hanko
Place of destination
Boston
State of destination
MA
Country of destination
USA
Price of ticket
FIM 256
Ship from Finland
Titania
Date of departure from Finland
22.11.1911
Ship from England
Franconia
Date of departure from England
28.11.1911
Ocean Line
Cunard Line
Port of departure in England
*
List and page
90/9
Remarks
*

Regards,

kpaavola
21-01-05, 14:08
...for those details. I guess it's been a while since I've seen the details section on their site. I thought it had the parish info. I must be thinking of the passport records.

I saw those 2 records on Ellis Island. I'll keep poking around and refer back to this posting as needed.

Thanks much!

Alicia
21-01-05, 16:23
Hi,
Here are some emigrant records for Paavola

Name Year Age Place of Arrival

Herman Paavola 1875-1906 Ashtabula Co., Ohio
Matti Paavola 1875-1906 Ashtabula Co., Ohio

New York Port, Ship Images, 1851-1891
Viewing records 1-5 of 5 matches for:
Paavola




Name Arrival Date Age Port of Departure Ship Name View

Herm Paavola 24 May 1887 29 Bremen Elbe
Leander Paavola 14 Jun 1886 21 Liverpool Etruria
Matth Paavola 6 Jun 1891 ?? Bremen Elbe
Matts Paavola 14 Jun 1886 45 Liverpool Alaska
V Paavola 10 May 1889 26 Liverpool Britannic




New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891
Viewing records 1-9 of 9 matches for:
Paavola



Name Arrival Date Estimated Birth Year Gender Port of Departure Place of Origin Destination Ship Name

??ha Paavola 15 May 1889 1868 Male Bremen, Germany and Southampton, England Russia United States of America Werra
Anna Paavola 17 Nov 1890 1862 Female Bremen, Germany and Southampton, England Finland United States of America Trave
Herm Paavola 24 May 1887 1858 Male Bremen, Germany Sweden New York Elbe
Leander Paavola 14 Jun 1886 1865 Male Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland United States of America Etruria
Matth Paavola 6 Jun 1891 ? Bremen, Germany and Southampton, England Finland United States of America Elbe
Matts Paavola 14 Jun 1886 1841 Male Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Finland United States of America Alaska
Samuel Paavola 16 May 1891 1859 Male Cape, Hayti and Tonaives Finland United States of America Fulda
Samuel Paavola 16 May 1891 1859 Male Cape, Hayti and Tonaives Finland United States of America Fulda
V Paavola 10 May 1889 1863 Male Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland Norway United States of America Britannic


Canadian Immigrant Records, Part One
Viewing record 1 of 1 match for:
Paavola
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Name Year of Record Occupation Source/Event

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Alicia

dhanela
06-03-09, 16:47
I have information on Kaisa and also Michigan and Wisconsin Census information for 1900, 1910 and 1920

Karen Norwillo
06-03-09, 20:18
Kevin,
I found a Family Tree on Ancestry, which may be of a daughter of Matts Paavola. Has her father as Matts Paavola, born 1863 in Pudasjärvi, Finland. No name for mother. It seems to match the family I found first in 1900 in Ironwood, Gogebic, MI and then in Knight, Iron, WI. In 1900, Matts was married to a Kate, probably Americanized, and had these children, Jennie, Walter, ?Turvil, Lilly and Julia. In 1910, he is widowed and children are Walter, Thomas, Lillian and Julia. By 1920 I think he's back in Ironwood with a Voito and Lillian Paavola. I'm not sure this is yours, but it looks promising. Only difference is in 1900 his birth is given as Aug 1862, but the children seem to match each census.
Karen

budjohnson
07-03-09, 01:29
Following up on Karen's information I found a marriage (Family search) for Julia Paavola on July 22, 1919 in Ironwood, which has her father as Matts Paavola. The grooms name was Henry K. Mitchell.

Karen Norwillo
07-03-09, 14:45
Here's the image for that. The date was 22 July 1919. I also found a marriage for a Lillian Paavola to a John Heil, born 1893 in Finland. It took place in Crystal Falls, Iron, MI, so I'm not sure it's her. Says age 20, born 1896 in MI. No name for father, but mother listed as Kaisa Hoamela. John's parents are Jacob Heil and Mathilda Pollari. Also attached is a WWI Draft Card for a Toivo Paavola which could be the Turvil as found in 1900 and Thomas in 1910. Couldn't find one for Walter. Karen

Karen Norwillo
07-03-09, 16:51
Found a marriage for Toivo Paavola and Lillian Roberts 21 Dec 1918 in Iron River, Iron, MI. A witness was Julia Paavola. Age fits. Father Matt Paavola.

christina
07-03-09, 18:15
Look at these sites:
http://www.jurvansuu.net/henrik_paavola1826.htm
http://www.jurvansuu.net/stefan_oinas1761.htm
http://www.jurvansuu.net/

http://www.genealogia.fi/sukututk/frames.php?type=1&kieli=en

Hälsningar
Christina Nordback

christina
07-03-09, 18:33
I'm helping someone ..... I checked the Mormon website and came up with this, along with some checking on HisKi.
1. Matts Isaaksson Paavola b.7.22.1862 Pudasjärvi


From the site http://www.jurvansuu.net/matti_paavola1762.htm#Paavola%20Matti%20Isaacinpoi ka

8. Paavola Matti Isaacinpoika
s. 22.7.1862 Pudasjärvi
k.
a. Mennyt Amerikkaan vuonna 1880

Mvh
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Karen Norwillo
07-03-09, 21:10
Here's the obit for Matt Paavola, if it's the right one.
Also, Lillian's husband should be John Hill, not Heil. Lillian Impi Paavola 14 Aug 1896 Ironwood, died 28 Oct 1979 in Stambaugh, Iron, MI. John (Johannes Maenpaa) Hill 6 Aug 1894 Finland, died 28 Mar 1962 Stambaugh, Iron, MI. They had two children, Earl and Bernice. Obit mentions family. I forgot the exact date. I have to go back to Ancestry. This was from the Ironwood paper.

Karen Norwillo
08-03-09, 14:50
Matt died 5 Mar 1938, obit from 9 Mar 1938. From the Ironwood Daily Globe

dhanela
08-03-09, 18:37
Attached is Kaisa's ancestor report

Hasse
08-03-09, 19:54
Kevin hasn't been on-line for some time, but I will try to contact him so he can see the new findings.

Hasse