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anastom
23-03-05, 07:57
Hi,

I'm looking for information on Johan Jakob Henriksson RAUMA b.05-06-1851 in Kaustby, Finland.
He emigrated to USA and died there. I've no date of emigration.

regards
Tommy

kpaavola
23-03-05, 15:51
Hi Tommy,
Without more details to confirm his identity, it will be difficult to find the correct person in the census. Do you know if he was married, spouse name, children's names??? That would help.

I did find the following on Ellis Island site. The age is about right. But when I go to view the actual manifest, it displays the incorrect image. I'll try to poke around some other sites to try to get to the correct ship and see if I can find him. It looks promising.

First Name: Jvakko
Last Name: Rauma
Ethnicity: Finland
Last Place of Residence:
Date of Arrival: May 16, 1896
Age at Arrival: 44y Gender: M Marital Status:
Ship of Travel: Campania
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0132

kpaavola
23-03-05, 16:11
Tommy,
Here's the correct ship manifest arrival record for Jaakko Rauma:

anastom
23-03-05, 17:41
Hi Kevin,

Thanks' a lot for the information. Jaakko might be the right person. He was the only brother to my ggf from my mothers side. He was not married when emigrated.
About 1930, after his death in the US, an inquiry of possible close relations came to Kaustby. At first nobody figured out that it was Jaakko and no heritage could be claimed.
So he died about 1930 and it seems he did not get married in the US, at least no childern.
I'd be grateful for any additional information.

regards
Tommy

kpaavola
23-03-05, 19:47
Tommy,
I checked the Institute of Migration website and found this entry: Rauma Jaakko 02.05.1896. This would coincide with the ship arrival record I located. I don't have full access to that site but others on the Forum do and perhaps could check the details to verify if he was from Kaustby.

I did see a Jaakko Rauma in the Passport records but his date of birth is much later. Also, there's a Johan Henrik with a later date of birth.

anastom
23-03-05, 20:54
Kevin,

Thanks' a lot for your efforts.
Do you see any possibilies to find out date and place of death with data in hand ?
Were is the belongings going when there is no will or close relatives found ? Is there a data base for such events ?

regards
Tommy

kpaavola
23-03-05, 23:51
Tommy, I think it's going to be rather difficult to find anything about his death without knowing where he lived. There are online databases that are searchable but we're not sure at this point what name he used while in the US.

I can't seem to find any Rauma people born in 1851 in the census index. I also tried Henrickson in Iosco County, MI and couldn't find anything.

I'll keep looking and see if we can't turn up something.

jeanette
24-03-05, 07:31
Hi Tommy,
Reading the image Kevin posted. I recalled the Index at Gen Soc of Fin for East Tawas, MI where I found a Johan Rauma as a sponsor to a birth in Eveleth,Mn. Perhaps some of the other names mentioned are familiar to you and may help to decide whether this could be your man.
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35ee.htm
At the Gen Soc of Finland under Emigration, United States,
Indexes, Michigan, East Tawas
Abigail Evangelical Lutheran Church, East Tawas,
Iosco County, Michigan - Baptism Records - Sep 1897-1898
Name: Kaarlo Oskari
Born: 10 Dec 97
Baptized: 18 Dec 97
Where: EV = Eveleth, Minnesota
Parents: Carl Tofferi / Kustaava
Sponsors:Matti Tofferi / Anna; Johan Rauma; Amalia Pukema

On the Minnesota Historical Society Death Index site
http://people.mnhs.org/dci/
I found 25 Rauma deaths. These two for John
RAUMA, JOHN JALMER
Date of Birth: not indexed
Place of Birth: not indexed
Mother Maiden Name: not indexed
certid# 1930-MN-003904
Date of Death: 07/28/1930
County of Death: DOUGLAS

RAUMA, JOHN
Date of Birth: not indexed
Place of Birth: not indexed
Mother Maiden Name: not indexed
certid# 1924-MN-025257
Date of Death: 01/25/1924
County of Death: ST. LOUIS

At the St Louis County MN Genweb site
http://www.rootsweb.com/~mnstloui/
I found
Last Name First Name Middle Date of Death Cert. # Comments/Location
RAUMA ARTHUR L 8/28/1915 5324 EVELETH
RAUMA JOHN NA 1/25/1924 78
RAUMU ELMER RAYMOND 9/15/1924 6718 EVELETH

http://www.ironrangeresearchcenter.org/scripts/runisa.dll?irrrb:searchresults
Naturalization Record
JOHAN RAUMA
Location: STLOUIS(DULUTH)
State: MINNESOTA
Reel #: 5
Vol #: G
Code #: 7
Page #: 112
Index Date: 9/7/1988

Unfortunately nothing to identify whether this is your Johan Rauma, however it does show the Rauma name can definitely be found in MN.

Finally these are all the Rauma type names found in 1910
Perhaps Johan was living with a younger relative.
Surname,GivenName,Age,Sex,Race,Birthplace,County,L ocality,T624-Roll,Part,Page,Subpage,State
STRAUMAN,ANDREW,23,M,W,FIN,3-DIVISION,UNGA PENINSULA,1750,2,270,B,AK
RAUMA,VICTOR,46,M,W,FIN,WORCESTER,1-WD FITCHBURG,628,1,27,A,MA
RAUMA,MATTI,48,M,W,FIN,WORCESTER,2-WD FITCHBURG,628,1,97,B,MA
RAUMAN,JOHN,30,M,W,FIN,MARQUETTE,5-WD NEGAUNEE,662,2,171,B,MI
RAUMA,KATIE,75,F,W,FIN,ST LOUIS,3-WD EVELETH,723,1,39,A,MN
RAUMA,JOHN C,29,M,W,FIN,ST LOUIS,3-WD EVELETH,723,1,38,A,MN
RAUMA,HELEN,20,F,W,FIN,ST LOUIS,3-WD VIRGINIA,724,1,113,B,MN
RAUMAN,JOHN,26,M,W,FIN,SILVER BOW,3-WD BUTTE,836,2,105,B,MT
RAUMALA,JOHN,24,M,W,FIN,CUYAHOGA,17-WD CLEVELAND,1172,2,4,A,OH
RAUMA,ERICK,59,M,W,FIN,BROWN,SAVO,1477,1,297,B,SD
RAUMA,OSCAR,26,M,W,FIN,PIERCE,CARBONADO PCT,1663,1,238,A,WA
RAUMAN,WILLIAM,27,M,W,FIN,DODGE,2-WD WANPUN,1707,1,56,B,WI

Jeanette

Karen Norwillo
24-03-05, 17:31
Here are the particulars from Emigrant Register for that Jaakko Rauma, age 44, Kokkola to East Tawas, MI, on SS Urania 2 May 1896. No info on ship from England. The other Jaakko Rauma was born in 1864 and was from Nivala, Oulu, was married to Anna Greeta, born 1874, who was travelling with him. They left 4 Feb 1916.I found them on the 1930 census for Artesia, Norwalk Township, Los Angeles county, CA. He is 65, emigrated 1916, married at 37, a dairyman. Wife Annie is 54, daughter Hilma is 14. I also found a John J Rauma who died 11 Mar 1951 at age 58 on the Washington Death Index.

granskare
24-03-05, 17:52
I checked the church in East Tawas, MI, Eveleth MN, Hibbing MN and Virginia MN because these little places where on the same Minnesota film.

I did not find John Henrikson (Rauma) - I checked funeral lists and nothing there and I paid attention to spellings.

The gen site in Finland has this about a church in East Tawas:

"East Tawas (Iosco Co.) - Suomi Synod
Finnish Evangelical Lutheran Church
[Source: RW]"

This is likely the place Jeanette referred to in her posting. This guy is really elusive!

Chuck:)

anastom
24-03-05, 19:32
Kevin, Jeanette, Karen and Chuck !
I'm so grateful for your replys. I'm right now behind a mobile connection so I'll come back to you next week.
Jeanette , there are a lot of Tofferis in Kaustby so the sponsor event seems interesting.
Happy Easter
/Tommy

kpaavola
24-03-05, 20:55
As Chuck said, this guy really is elusive.

I've checked the 1900, 1910 & 1920 census for any John and any Jacob born between 1850-1854 in both Minnesota and Michigan and though there were a couple of promising Hen(d)ricksons, none were the correct fellow.

Usually when the last name is grossly misspelled, they'll turn up with a first name search. I even checked some "John ?????" and they weren't correct. It's possible that this guy appears on a census record where the ink is very faint and consequently he didn't get included in the index. I can't think of any other reasons.

I'm sorry I couldn't find him for you but if you happen to locate any additional detail, repost and I'll try to search again. :(

Feeling defeated....

June Pelo
24-03-05, 21:41
I saw a Rauma, John Henrikson and Peter Olson in these records for Abigail Lutheran Church, East Tawas, MI.

http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35ae.htm
Baptisms:
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35be.htm 1897-98
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35ce.htm 1899-1915
Marriages:
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35de.htm
Index:
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35fe.htm A-G
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35ge.htm H-J
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35he.htm K-L
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35ie.htm M-Pi
http://www.genealogia.fi/emi/emi3d35je.htm Po-

Sorry it isn't easy to search these. I submitted the data to Finngen and they set up the site.

When and where was Jaakko Rauma born? I have the birth records for Karleby/Kokkola up to 1859. I have a lot of Rauma names in my database and the majority were born in Kaustby.

June

kpaavola
24-03-05, 22:36
Originally posted by anastom
I'm looking for information on Johan Jakob Henriksson RAUMA b.05-06-1851 in Kaustby, Finland.
He emigrated to USA and died there. I've no date of emigration.

June, from Tommy's original post....

tuomenkukka
23-10-05, 15:10
Originally posted by Karen Norwillo
The other Jaakko Rauma was born in 1864 and was from Nivala, Oulu, was married to Anna Greeta, born 1874, who was travelling with him. They left 4 Feb 1916.I found them on the 1930 census for Artesia, Norwalk Township, Los Angeles county, CA. He is 65, emigrated 1916, married at 37, a dairyman. Wife Annie is 54, daughter Hilma is 14.

I have been searching for this family for years. Could someone possibly help me on this? I know, Jaakko Rauma used the name John Rauma in the USA. He lived in California, Elmonte. Hilma married Weaver. Any help are most welcome.

Karen Norwillo
23-10-05, 17:08
Here is more on this John Rauma and family as found on Ancestry.com. CA Death Index, Rauma John, b)24 June 1864 other country, d)23 Jan 1953 Los Angeles Cty, CA
Rauma, Anna, b)17 Oct 1875 other country, d)16 Oct 1947, Los Angeles Cty.
Paul C Weaver, b)16 Feb 1913 and d)4 Nov 2002 Newcastle, CA
Listings Newcastle, CA phonebook 1995-2002, Hilma Weaver, spouse Paul C.
CA Birth Index, found two Weaver births with mother's maiden name as Rauma. I will send private message the particulars. There were also other Raumas in CA, maybe related to John. Also more in WA. Karen

tuomenkukka
06-11-05, 19:16
Originally posted by Karen Norwillo


Karen, thank you for helping me.

I have get to contact for John 's family in CA. The contact was a very big surprise for me.

Thank you for Finlander Forum, too.