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jmmccart99
07-03-06, 06:33
I have run into a wall (using the resources available to me) in confirming the ancestry of a key Pörtom ancestor, Beata Mattsdotter Brännfors; and her daughter Maria Johansdotter Sten.

My inference on Beata (which is scarcely conclusive evidence) is that she was a d/o of Matts Markusson Brännfors-// (måg-bonde on Brännfors) and Beata Simonsdotter Brännfors.

I am following these references (besides Hiski; and a couple of Pörtom Smått genealogies).

AN6 - Kurt Helge Norrback, Ätteläggen Nr. 6 - antavlor sammanställda (many Pörtom families)

PH - K. V. Åkerblom, Pörtom Historia (Vasa 1954)

The proofs (aside from exact proof of their parentage) seem solid before and after.

The lines (before and after; refs to my .doc files for each family page) are:

01 Lars Söderman.doc
02 Lars Larsson Söderman.doc
03 Erik Larsson Söderman.doc
04 Henrik Eriksson Söderman.doc
05 Henrik Henriksson Söderman.doc
06 Erik Henriksson Söderman.doc
07 Matts Bengtsson Söderman-.doc [styvson t. 06]
08 Mickel Mattsson Söderman.doc
09 Simon Mickelsson Brännfors-Söderman.doc
10 Beata Simonsdotter Brännfors.doc [m. Matts Markusson Brännfors-//]

- Beata Mattsdotter Brännfors

03 Johan Mattsson Sten.doc [m. Beata Mattsdotter Brännfors]
06 Anders Fredriksson Styf.doc [m. Maria Johansdotter Sten]

Something seems amiss with my Johan Mattsson Sten family page, as well - just doesn't smell right; but I can't solve the problem (bönder in 1818) based on my available resources.

So, if anyone can confirm (or disprove) Matts Markusson Brännfors-// (måg-bonde on Brännfors) and Beata Simonsdotter Brännfors as parents of Beata Mattsdotter Brännfors (m. Johan Mattsson Sten), that would be much appreciated.

Similarly, as to Johan Mattsson Sten and Beata Mattsdotter Brännfors as parents of Maria Johansdotter Sten (m. Anders Fredriksson Styf).

Since both Beata Simonsdotter Brännfors and Maria Johansdotter Sten are "gateway ancestors" (leading to long lines of known descent), confirmation (or disproof) is of obvious importance.

The baptismal records (if they exist) for both of these girls would solve all the problems.

T.s.m.

JMM

My Beata.rtf file is attached with all my data.

Karen Douglas
07-03-06, 23:11
Hi,
I have an Eric Matton Sten, born 2 Sep 1755, died 7 Jul 1808. He married Elizabetha Henriksdotter Skog (of Nedervetil). She was born 18 Aug 1768; died 21 Mar 1842 in Korsholm. They had one daughter: Anna Caisa Ericsdotter Sten. Any connection here?

Karen Douglas
Sisuday*comcast.net

jmmccart99
08-03-06, 05:49
Hi Karen,

Not likely. My questions were on the Sten farm at Pörtom-Pirttikylä, well south of Korsholm (nearer Närpes). Nedervetil is northeast of Korsholm-Mustasaari (and part of my grandmother's region). But, there were some limited inter-marriages between the regions.

The Pörtom Sten farm had no Eriks born ca.1700-ca.1800 (PH tabs 1-5); but AN6 has an Erik Mattsson Sten born at Pörtom 9 Oct 1773 (ancestral to quite a few). Too late by a generation for yours.

There were also others Stens (Steens) at Pörtom. They were soldiers and their children - and not necessarily related !! And, their "surnames" were not "Steen" or "Sten".

Here's the explanation.

A number of people were named "Steen" at Pörtom because of the Swedish military organization of Finland in the late 1600's and early 1700's. Each group of farms would provide a cottage and garden for a resident soldier (sometimes a local, sometimes not), who would live rent free so long as he remained in the army. The Steen knekttorpet ("soldier's cottage"; Steentorp) was supported by the Gästgivars, Ståhl, Kass, Smått, Nordman and Sten (Steen) farm families. Its soldier was private Nr 90 in the Malax Squad (Nr 90-114) of the Närpes Company of the Österbottens Regiment. Thus, Torpet nr. 90 i Pörtom (Steentorp 1737, Södermans 1808).

Also another soldier was located at Torpet nr. 91 i Pörtom (Svedtorp 1737, Minder 1808)

Westside "Indelta" has the whole story,

http://www.qnet.fi/westside/kompani.htm


JMM

Kaj Granlund
12-03-06, 20:52
Karen
Don't have any information about Pörtom. But I know there can be problems with the parishrecords as many of them were destroyed in a fire and much of the information is reconstructions from other sources

Charlotte Söder
25-09-08, 14:00
I have a Johan Mattsson Sten in my family research. It´s a while since you wrote this question, so you might have got these information already.

Johan Mattsson Sten born 04.10.1790 in Pörtom, dead 1836 in Pörtom

Farther: Matthias "Matts" Andersson Sten born 10.01.1758 in Pörtom, dead 22.04.1834 in Pörtom
(Parents: Anders Sigrfridsson Sten born 1720 in Pörtom, dead 1788 in Pörtom)
Mother: Brita Eriksdotter born 01.08.1758 in ?, dead 23.02.1816 in Pörtom

Their Children:
Anders Mattsson Sten born 31.07.1780 in Pörtom
Maria Mattdotter Sten born 09.10.1783 in Pörtom
Michel Mattsson Sten born 01.10.1784 in Pörtom
Matts Mattsson Sten born 26.02.1786 in Pörtom
Lisa Mattsdotter Sten born 28.02.1787 in Pörtom
Johan Mattsson Sten born 04.10.1790 in Pörtom
Anders Mattsson Sten born 08.11.1796 in Pörtom
Matts Mattsson Sten born 15.01.1798 in Pörtom

Dont know anything about them, except for Matts Mattson Sten who 22.12.1824, married Maria Isacsdotter Pantolin born 09.01.1801 in Bötom, and they got four children, Christina born 1827, Anna Lisa born 1833, Matthias "Matts" born 1836 and Maria Greta 1839.

Hope this is of some interest for you. If you´d like to know more just write, and I´ll see if I can help you.

best regards
Charlotte

jmmccart99
06-10-08, 05:58
and another Söderman link or maybe two.

It does not seem like 2½ years since I wrote the OP - and 1½ years since I looked at these family pages. Oh well, life goes on.

Here is what I have on the Matthias "Matts" Andersson Sten family (adding your data).

Matts Andersson Sten, bonde (11/48 mtl) (PH Sten tab 4), born & baptised 10 & 11 Jan 1758 in Pörtom (HisKi); died 22.04.1834 in Pörtom.


HisKi (Pörtom-Pirttikylä)
10.1.1758 11.1.1758 Pört: Steen And: Sigfr:s: Margeta jacobsdr Matthias

He married bet. 1773-1780 (more likely later ca. 1779), Brita Eriksdotter Söderman (d/o Erik Mickelsson Söderman & Ulrica Johansdotter //, from HisKi - see below), born & baptised 1 & 2 Aug 1758 in Pörtom (HisKi); died 23 Feb 1816 in Pörtom (PH Sten tab 4).


HisKi (Pörtom-Pirttikylä)
1.8.1758 2.8.1758 Pört: Eric Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Brita

Children in PH are Johan, Maja, Lisa (m. bs Anders Henriksson Vägar), Anders, Matts and Beata (PH Sten tab 4). For all (so far) known children:


Hiski (Pörtom-Pirttikylä)
original - ALKUPKOMM: Åren 1773-1782 förnitade vid prästgårdens brand 19/41867

31.7.1780 1.8.1780 Pört: Steen Matts And:s: Brita Eriksdr Andreas*+21/4 1781
6.7.1781 7.7.1781 Pört: Steen Matts And;s: Brita Eriksdr Margaretha* +25/7 1781
record break-----------------------------------------------------------------------
3.11.1796 4.11.1796 Pörtom Matts Steen Britha Ericsdr Anders
15.1.1798 15.1.1798 Pörtom Matts Steen Britha Ericsdr Mathias
18.8.1799 18.8.1799 Pörtom Matts Steen Britha Ercsdr Eric*+ 28/8 03
20.1.1801 21.1.1801 Pörtom Matts Steen Brietha Ericsdr Simon*+ 22/9 1809


from Charlotte Söder

Father: Matthias "Matts" Andersson Sten born 10.01.1758 in Pörtom, dead 22.04.1834 in Pörtom
Mother: Brita Eriksdotter born 01.08.1758 in ?, dead 23.02.1816 in Pörtom

Their Children [* in HisKi]:

Anders Mattsson Sten born 31.07.1780 in Pörtom *
Maria Mattdotter Sten born 09.10.1783 in Pörtom
Michel Mattsson Sten born 01.10.1784 in Pörtom
Matts Mattsson Sten born 26.02.1786 in Pörtom
Lisa Mattsdotter Sten born 28.02.1787 in Pörtom
Johan Mattsson Sten born 04.10.1790 in Pörtom
Anders Mattsson Sten born 08.11.1796 in Pörtom *
Matts Mattsson Sten born 15.01.1798 in Pörtom *

Clearly, a match - and probably the whole family - anyway, that confirms Johan Mattsson Sten's birth date (filiation is also in PH Sten tab 5). I assume Matts Mattsson Sten >> Charlotte Söder ?

Now, the question of Brita Eriksdotter's ancestry, since we have the parents but no farmnames - we end up with the father's !

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Ancestry of Brita Eriksdotter //


Hiski (Pörtom-Pirttikylä)
original - ALKUPKOMM: Åren 1773-1782 förnitade vid prästgårdens brand 19/41867

g.m. 26.12.1755 Pört: dräng Eric Michelss: Ulrica Johansdr

26.1.1757 28.1.1757 Pört: smed Erich Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Michael*+
1.8.1758 2.8.1758 Pört: Eric Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Brita
17.6.1762 18.6.1762 Pört: smed Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Johannes
26.11.1764 29.11.1764 Pört: smed Erik Mick:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Margaretha
9.1.1766 10.1.1766 Pört: smed Erik Michelss: Ulrica Joh:dr Erik
18.9.1767 20.9.1767 Pört: smed Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Matthias
28.1.1769 28.1.1769 Pört: smed Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Ulrica*tvill:
28.1.1769 28.1.1769 Pört: smed Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Beata*tvill:
24.3.1772 25.3.1772 Pört: smed Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Maria
10.9.1773 19.9.1773 Pört: smed: Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Johdr Andreas*+29/9 1773 tvill:
10.9.1773 19.9.1773 Pört: smed: Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Johdr Michel*+23/10 1773 tvill:
30.4.1776 30.4.1776 Pört: torp: Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Catharina*+23/1 1777
22.6.1778 23.6.1778 Pört: torp: Erich: Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Joseph*+25/9 1778
24.9.1780 25.9.1780 Pört: torp: Erik Mich:s: Ulrica Joh:dr Elisabeth

Eric Michelss = dräng (1755), smed (1757-1773) & torpare (1776-1780).

Easy (had it in another file) - PH p.117 has Eric as bondsonen Erik Mickelsson Söderman; followed his father Mickel Mattsson Söderman as village smith. Erik is a brother of Simon Mickelsson Brännfors-Söderman.

Erik Mickelsson Söderman (s/o Mickel Mattsson Söderman; mother is unnamed, so far as I know), born 31 Mar 1733 at ??; died 10 Oct 1808, Pörtom.



trans. JMM
In 1757, bondsonen ("the bonde's son") Erik Mickelsson Söderman accepted an offer from the Pörtom men to be the village blacksmith. He appeared at the court session with a cutting axe (huggyxa) and a scythe (lie), which he forged in the presence of two bönder who testified to those facts. His father owned a blacksmith's shop (smedje), which together with a dwelling house and another house, he bought in 1766. He was cited as "Gamla smeden Erik Michelsson i Pörtom" died in 1808 when he was 75 years old. PH p. 117. Erik Mickelsson Söderman is listed as a son of Mickel Mattsson Söderman and blacksmith in Pörtom (bysmed i Pörtom) in PH Söderman tab. 3.

Bounties were established for killing certain wild animals. An adult wolf (varg) brought 2 dr smt (1 dr smt = 4 marks). In 1756, bondsonen Erik Mickelsson Söderman received a bounty for two wolves (vargar). In 1758, smeden Erik Mickelsson received 1 dr smt for four wolf cubs (vargungar). An adult bear brought a bounty of 4 rdr smt (from 1715-1776, 1 rdr = 3 dr smt). In 1753, smeden Simon Mickelsson of Pörtom received bounties for two bear (björnar) and two bear cubs (björnungar). Ref: PH p. 50.

G.m. 26.12.1755 Pört: Ulrica Johansdotter //, b. 14 Sep 1738 at ??; d. 19 Feb 1830, Pörtom. Her parents ?? (so far).

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What do you have on ancestry of Anders Sigrfridsson Sten born 1720 in Pörtom, dead 1788 in Pörtom ? From what I have, this seems to go back to Nordman and then Söderman (can't get much better than that in Pörtom), but I would like some confirmations.

That would be a third Söderman ancestry for my grandfather if all of this connects.

T.s.m. for getting me back to this.

Some people at Westside may have these lines - or may have different ideas about them. Like to hear from them.

JMM

Charlotte Söder
09-10-08, 10:13
Hello!

Anders Sigfridsson Sten born 1720 in Pörtom, dead 1788 in Pörtom.

Born at Nordman, Probably son-in-law and farmer at Stens “hemman” in Pörtom.
Anders bought out the “hemman” 1761 to tax 53 dr. smt, (the current money-system at the time, Daler silvermynt. The year 1766 he moved out the farm to a calf meadow.
According to Pörtom history.

Father: Probably Sigfrid Mattsson Nordman (Can’t verify this, only by what it says in “Pörtom historia”)
Mother: Unknown
Brother: Matts Sigfridsson Nordman born ..10.1717 in Pörtom, dead 07.07.1767 in Pörtom, farmer and sitting in the village comity. Married twice, first with Anna Mattsdotter Håkans, probably three children in that marriage,
second time about 1745 with, Anna Andersdotter born 1726, dead 01.06.1809 in Pörtom.
They got six children (that I know of). Among them

Matts Mattsson Nordman born 26.02.1746 in Pörtom, dead 19.02.1830 in Pörtom

Farmer on his fathers land (3/16 mantal) after his death, Build his farmhouse in a new place because the old land was to small for two houses.

Married 15.12.1765 to:
Catharina Johansson ? born 1746 in Pörtom, dead 21.04.1808 in Pörtom
Children:
Margaretha Mattdotter Nordman born 21.12.1767 in Pörtom, dead 22.07.1839 in Pörtom
Catharina Mattsdotter Nordman born 08.08.1771 in Pörtom, dead 24.05.1831 in Pörtom


Anders Sigfridsson Sten born 1720 in Pörtom, dead 1788 in Pörtom.
Married to Margareta Jakobsdotter born born 1720, dead 1788 in Pörtom
(Seams odd that they should be born and dead at the same year, but that’s what I’ve got)

Their children:
Mathias “Matts” Andersson Sten Born 10.01.1758 in Pörtom, dead 22.04.1834 in Pörtom
Maria Andersdotter Sten born ?, dead 09.09.1828 in Pörtom
Katarina Andersdotter Sten Born ?, dead ?

Generation III

Mathias “Matts” Andersson Sten born 10.01.1758 in Pörtom, dead 22.04.1834 in Pörtom
Married to
Brita Ericsdotter ? born 01.08.1758, dead 23.02.1816 in Pörtom
Children
10 born between 1780 to 1801. (all above)


Both Anders Sigfridsson Sten and Matts Sigfridsson Nordman are my ancestors.

I can’t verify Brita Ericssons parents, the wife of Matts Andersson Sten, but I´ve put the question once again on The Forum Westside, to see if anyone can help us.


I presume that you are aware of the old hemman in Pörtom. They were 16 as late as 1762, even though some of them were split up into two, which means they had the same number with an a, for instance, Söderman 1 and Söderman 1a.

1. Söderman (and 1a)
2. Styv (and 2a)
3. Uppgård (and 3a)
4. Ståhl (and 4a)
5. Gästgivars (and 5a)
6. Back
7. Svart
8. Dunder (and 8a)
9. Smått
10. Kaas
11. Lång (and 11a)
12. Stoor
13. Nordman
14. Sten
15. Sved
16. Vägar (two farmhouses at the same land)

I have connection to Söderman earlier, by my ancestor,who came in from Övermark and his son was born at Styv, later he (the son) became a farmer at Söderman (without connection to the "old" Södermans), Anders Henriksson Söderman (Styv) born 30.05.1820 in Pörtom, dead 15.12.1887 in Pörtom. He was married to Ann-Greta Israelsdotter Dahlbo born 05.07.1821 in Pörtom, dead 02.04.1896 in Pörtom.

My connections to the old farmers in Pörtom goes in different threads to; Dunder, Sten, Nordman, Back, and Svart.

Then comes all the new farmers, which means that the farms increased from late 18th century to 20th century, as you probably already know. I can find some threads from them as well.

But all this is not anything unusual, all the familys in Pörtom seems to be connected with each other, in some way.

I follow your argument about Erik Michelsson, and I’ve look in “Pörtom History”, but I can’t find his birhtdate, where did you get 31 Mars from? He ought to be born in Pörtom, since his father Mickel Mattsson Södeman lived there, and since he was 75 years old 1808 he must been born 1833.

I’ve asked in Westside, but I only got the answers with data from Hiski, I hope somebody know about Söderman in the 18th, and hopefully writes, I’ve just got to wait and see.

Did you ever verify the parents of Beata Mattsdotter (Brännfors), married to Johan Mattsson Sten born 04.10.1790 in Pörtom? If not, I could try to ask on Westside again.

I don’t know what you are interested of in my family-search, so you can tell me.

Best regards
Charlotte

jmmccart99
20-10-08, 03:33
Hej Charlotte,

Yes, the Pörtombor were very much inter-related. I suspect that almost everyone was a cousin of some kind. I suspect if a new man came to town, the farmers probably said: "Ah, Hah, new breeding stock !" In any event, I have several men in the Styf ancestry who did that - my Styfs were long on daughters and short on sons.

I'm writing this on another computer (w/o my files); so, I'll have to look at this again this week and post an answer to your questions and review your new data.

For some of my Pörtom ancestry, see this thread (starting at post # 26).

http://finlander.genealogia.fi/showthread.php?t=2620&page=2

The charts in the .pdf files attached to that post and next (# 27) show my immediate ancestry (and also Christer Åstrand's) - the maternal sidelines in are not shown (not enough room).

Anyway, that will give you an idea of where the two of us are related. Have far more family pages.

Have scanned and OCR'd PH pages on the 16 old farms; but have only corrected the OCR text for a few I've used to date. Will get back to you soon.

JMM