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ninni
11-10-06, 10:09
Herman ALFRED Smeds born in norrnäs, närpes Nov 16, 1886. Emigrated ti America Dec4, 1909 on Urania/Mauretania, arrived to Ellis Island Dec 17, 1909.

Anyone who knows anything about his destany?? He was declaired dead in Finland.

Ninni

Karen Norwillo
11-10-06, 17:45
I found Alfred Smeds arriving Ellis Island 17 Dec 1909, age 23, single, from Närpes, Finland, SS Mauretania from Liverpool. Going to brother Erik Anderson, Box 358, Mariners Harbour, NY. Mother Kaisa Smeds, Norenäs, Närpes, Finland.
I found an Erik Smeds as a Norden subscriber living at 43 Union Ave, Mariners Harbor, Staten Island, NY.
Mariners Harbor was a big ship building area, Bethlehem Steel had a big plant here at one time. It is near Port Richmond.
So far that's all I find. There were several other Smeds in this area, a Gabriel Alfred Smeds and a Carl Smeds, all close to Alfreds age. Any relation?

Art Fors
11-10-06, 19:47
Hello Ninni,

According to Henrik Mangs' Gedcom at Talko, Herman Alfred Smeds' parents were Anders Wilhelm Karlsson Knuts, b. 5 NOV 1852 in Norrnäs, Närpes and Caisa Stina Andersdotter Smeds, b. 23 JUL 1853. It also shows Herman's wife was Helena Johanna Andersdotter Ylsöbäck, b. 1 JUL 1884 in Träskböle and they had one son, G.A. Smeds who was married to Emilia Maria Källström, b. 15 MAY 1908 in USA.

Information I found from the World War I Draft Registration leads me to believe Herman Alfred Smeds went by the name of Herman Alfred Anderson. Although birth dates are not a perfect match I feel this could be the person you're looking for. (see image below)

Name: Herman Alfred Anderson
City: Easton
County: Northampton
State: Pennsylvania
Birthplace: Narpes, Finland
Birth Date: 11 Nov 1886
Age: 30
Race: Caucasian
Status: alien
Citizen of what nation: Russia
Occupation: Tailor 26
Employer: Winter Bros ??
Place employed: Easton
Nearest Relative: wife & child
Height/Build: medium/medium
Color of Eyes/Hair: blue/light brown
Roll: 1877949
DraftBoard: 0

I'll keep searching.

Art

Art Fors
11-10-06, 19:57
Hello Ninni,

This is what I found from the 1910 United States Federal Census.

Name: Herman A Anderson
Age in 1910: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 21, New York, New York
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1909
Occupation: Tailor

Art

Henrik.Mangs
11-10-06, 20:26
Erik Andersson Smeds born 19/4 1883 in Närpes Finland deid 23/11 1918 i USA.

WBR
Henrik Mangs

Art Fors
11-10-06, 22:35
The following information is about Eric Andersson Smeds- Anderson, older brother of Herman Alfred Andersson Smeds- Anderson.

Re: 1910 United States Federal Census > New York > Richmond > Richmond Ward 3 > District 1310

Name: Eric Anderson
Age in 1910: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Home in 1910: Mariner Harbor, Richmond Ward 3, Richmond, New York
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1906
Occupation: Carpenter/Railroad
Household Members: Name Age (relation to head of household)
Isaac Larson 36 (Head)
Alice Larson 28 (Wife)
Alice Larson 6 (Daughter)
Ingler Laron 3 (Daughter)
Anna Laron 1 (Daughter)
Eric Anderson 28 (Boarder)
Harry Smith 26 (Boarder)
August Johnson 22 (Boarder)

Art

Nicholas
14-10-06, 20:40
Ninni-

In : AXPLOCK 2, ur hembygdens och släkternas historia, (Närpes Släktforskares förlag, 1990), page 40, Tab 42, you will find a very long entry about Herman Alfred Smeds, and his family.

The first part only, reads:

Herman Alfred Smeds, f. 16.11.1886, Norrnäs, dödförklarad 1.1.1978, USA. g m Helena Johanna Andersdr Ylsöbäck, f. 1.7.1884, Träskböle, d. 20.1.1961, Träskböle.

Their son, Gunnar Alfred, f. 1.10.1909, d. 21.6.1957 g m Emilia Maria Källström, f. 15.5.1908 i USA, d. 28.5.1981, Träskböle.

Gunnar Alfred and Emilia Maria had 10 ten children, and now have grand-children.

If you are seeking information about one particular line, and you do not have access to this book, please let me know, and I will look for it for you.

WBR,

Nicholas (Smeds) Smith

ninni
16-10-06, 10:21
Herman Alfred´s grandson wants to find out WHERE and WHEN
Herman Alfred died and did he have children in the USA ???

About H A parents and family we do have information.

ninni

Nicholas
18-10-06, 00:29
>>Herman Alfred Smeda-Anderson)
Herman Alfred´s grandson wants to find out WHERE and WHEN
Herman Alfred died and did he have children in the USA ???

About H A parents and family we do have information.

ninni<<

Sadly, the information they are seeking is not included in the Axplock 2.

The only child listed there is Gunnar Alfred, but I am certain the family already knows this much information.

I will contact my Smeds/Smith cousins here in the USA, to see if they have any information or ideas.

Nicholas

Art Fors
18-10-06, 06:22
Re: 1930 United States Federal Census > Pennsylvania > Northampton > Easton > District 38

Name: Herman Anderson
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Sweden
Marital Condition: Single
Relation to Head of House: Roomer
Race: White
Year of Immigration: 1910
Occupation: Tailor/Mens' Clothier
Father's' birthplace: Sweden
Mother's birthplace: Sweden

This seems to be the same Herman Anderson as in the World War I Draft Registration and the 1910 US Federal Census that I posted earlier. In all cases their occupations are the same; tailor.

If this is the same Herman Anderson we're looking for then it appears he never married or had a family up until 1930.

Art

Nicholas
18-10-06, 17:48
Art-

I was re-reading the posts, and re-read your earlier post (pasted below). We have missed something that you had already noted:

Harry Smeds is listed as a boarder in his brother's house as... Harry SMITH.
(Of all people, I should have caught this the first time I read it. My own grand-father changed from SMEDS to Smith when he arrived in New York.)

Harry Smeds used--at least that year-- the name Smith. This won't make looking for him any easier, but it further narrows the search.

All best,

Nicholas

>>Eric Andersson Smeds- Anderson
The following information is about Eric Andersson Smeds- Anderson, older brother of Herman Alfred Andersson Smeds- Anderson.

Re: 1910 United States Federal Census > New York > Richmond > Richmond Ward 3 > District 1310

Name: Eric Anderson
Age in 1910: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Home in 1910: Mariner Harbor, Richmond Ward 3, Richmond, New York
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1906
Occupation: Carpenter/Railroad
Household Members: Name Age (relation to head of household)
Isaac Larson 36 (Head)
Alice Larson 28 (Wife)
Alice Larson 6 (Daughter)
Ingler Laron 3 (Daughter)
Anna Laron 1 (Daughter)
Eric Anderson 28 (Boarder)
Harry Smith 26 (Boarder)
August Johnson 22 (Boarder)

Art

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