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Dawn Penttila
22-11-06, 03:02
hello all, i live in cloquet mn and am looking for any help with my great grandparents. My paternal great grandparents names were Andrew and Ida (Supola) Penttila,in Finland it was also spelled Bengtila and my maternal great grandparents names were John F. and Emma E. (Camp) Santapakka. Were they originally came from in Finland is being difficult to find out.

verpel
22-11-06, 12:29
Hi Dawn,

There are Bengtilä (Penttilä) at least in Isojoki (Storå) and Kaustinen (Kaustby). Do you have more information about your great grandparents for example birthdates, than it could be easier to find them.

Dawn Penttila
02-12-06, 19:04
i have some birthdates we found a partial linneage done starting back in 1677 to 1889, when an Annti Penttilä came to the usa, he was born March 8, 1871 Kalajoki to a Matti Esanpoika Penttilä (dob April 29,1834) and his second wife Kustaava Antintytär Kääntä (dob july 16, 1841). Now I'm having trouble linking Annti to my great grandfather Andrew. I cant find a dob for Andrew i found cemetary records but for dob they have na. After Antti came to the usa there is nothing more on him and there is many Annti's in passenger records ect. Any help would be great. thank you

Denise
03-12-06, 02:04
Hi Dawn,
Is this your Andrew Penttila?

Denise

Denise
03-12-06, 02:11
Hi,
Here is the 1910 Census.

Denise

Denise
03-12-06, 02:14
Hi again,
Here is the 1920 Census.

Denise

Dawn Penttila
05-12-06, 04:15
Yes a little the 1910 census looks like some different names then the 1920. The 1920 has John who was my grandfather and William his brother who my dad was named after, I dont see his name in the 1910 census though. Knife Falls township is where we found there burials took place. Thank you for your help

Dawn Penttila
05-12-06, 04:32
Denise, if you could also tell me what the top lines say I', having a little trouble reading some of them. It looks like Andrews citizenship says 1889, so I'm wondering if when he came to the U.S he change his name from Annti to Andrew. The partial linneage we have says an Annti came to U.S.A. in 1889. Thank you.

Denise
05-12-06, 12:39
Hi Dawn,
The 1900 Census was cut off just above his name and it's a double page census, one page on top of another. I can't seem to get it to copy. He immigrated in 1889, and naturalized in 1897. In the 1900 Census when you look at it says 1889, not 1884 as whoever transcribed it wrote down.

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew E Penttila
Home in 1900: Knife Falls, Carlton, Minnesota
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Finland
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Ida Johnnie
Race: White
Occupation: View image
Immigration year: 1884
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Andrew E Penttila 29
Ida Johnnie Penttila 27
Helma Edisa Penttila 6
Fannie Melida Penttila 4
Ida Johanna Penttila 7.12
Andrew William Penttila 7.12





Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Knife Falls, Carlton, Minnesota; Roll: T623 758; Page: 38B; Enumeration District: 41




1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew Penttila
[Andrew ?Enttila]
Age in 1910: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Spouse's name: Ida J
Home in 1910: Knife Falls, Carlton, Minnesota
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1889
Andrew Penttila 38
Ida J Penttila 36
Elvira H Penttila 16
Fanny M Penttila 14
Andrew W Penttila 10
Lillian S Penttila 7
John E Penttila 4
Einar E Penttila 2/12




Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Knife Falls, Carlton, Minnesota; Roll: T624_692; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 43; Image: 284.

1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew Penttila
Home in 1920: Knife Falls, Carlton, Minnesota
Age: 48 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Ida
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1889
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 614
Andrew Penttila 48
Ida Penttila 47
William Penttila 26
Lillian S Penttila 17
John Penttila 13
Eddie Penttila 9




Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Knife Falls, Carlton, Minnesota; Roll: T625_824; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 12; Image: 61

Denise
05-12-06, 12:43
Hi Dawn,
Andrew is the Americanized version of Antti. My great grandfather's name was Anselm and he also went by the name Andrew.


Denise

Denise
05-12-06, 20:54
Hi,
Came across this passenger record while looking for someone else, but the name rang a bell. Maybe some help on where the Penttila's were from.

Denise

Denise
05-12-06, 20:58
Hi,
Here is page 2 of the passenger record. He is number 5 on this one.

Denise

June Pelo
05-12-06, 21:13
I have an Anders Gustaf Andersson Bengtilä/Penttilä, b. 3 Mar 1873 in Kaustby, who came to America 2 May 1891. He died 1 May 1900 in America. He was married 27 Nov 1897 in America to Olga Maria Johansdotter Lindgren, b. 5 Nov 1878, d. 10 Sep 1913. I have no further info. on this couple, but I do have the ancestors of Anders. Most Penttilä names are found in Kaustby/Kaustinen.

June

Denise
05-12-06, 21:26
Hi,
Here is one on Santapakka, same ship.

Denise

Denise
05-12-06, 21:28
Hi,
Here is page 2 , Santapakka on line 24.

Denise

Dawn Penttila
06-12-06, 02:03
thank you for all the help looks like i've got some more matching up for dates to do

Paddi McMillen
06-12-06, 06:43
Hello! I'm Dawn's sister Paddi. Here's what we have for a genealogical report.

Jooseppi Olavinpoika (Joseph Olofsson) born 1677 Kalajoki, died age 87 Nov.30,19764 Kalajoki. One son Olavi Joosepinpoika (Olof Josephsson) born 1717 Kalajoki, died age 67 April 27,1787 Kalajoki. Wife Kristiina Pesantytar (Christina Pehrsdotter) born 1718 died age66 jan.10,1785 Kalajoki. Children
Petrus born Feb.4,1742-
Olaus born Oct.22,1744-
Johannes born June 18,1746-
Mathias born Feb. 19,1749-
Thomas born March 12,1750-
Christina born Sept.14,1751-
Magdalena born Feb.2,1754-
Erich born Jan.7,1756......all in Kalajoki
Johannes Olavipoika (Johannes Olofsson) surname later Penttil (Bengila) dies age 37 Dec.17,1783 kalajoki.
Wife Anna Johanintytar (Anna Johansdotter) born 1745. dies age 79 July 2,1824 Kalajoki. Children...
Olof born Dec.22,1771
Anna born Dec.23,1773
Jooseppi born Nov.19,1780
Johannes born April 26,1782.all in Kalajoki.
Jooseppi Johanneksenpoika Penttila (Joseph Johannesson Bengila) died age 68 Feb.2,1849 Kalajoki.
Wife Liisa Pekantytar (Elisabeth Pehrsdotter) born May 4,1782 died age 30 March 8,1813 Kalajoki.
Joined in marriage Oct.29,1801. Children...
Johanna born Oct.30,1803
Gustaf born March 7,1806
Esa born March 12,1808
Susanna Elisabeth born Oct.19,1810. all in Kalajoki
Second Wife Anna Pekantytar Saukko (Anna Pehrsdotter Saucko) born April 30,1781 died age 79 March 3,1861 Kalajoki. Joined in marriage Oct.5,1813. Children
Joseph born Jan.25,1818 Kalajoki
Esa Joosepinpoika Penttila (Esaias Josephsson Bengila) died age 56 May 12,1864 Kalajoki.
Wife Anna Briitta Matintytar (Anna Brita Mattssdotter) born Dec.15,1809 Kalajoki. Joined in marriage June 18,1828. Children
Stillborn girl born Sept. 27,1829
Johanna born April 13,1831
Matti born April 29,1834
Anders born Nov.30,1837
Brita Lisa born Sept.20,1840
Joseph born March 7,1843 Kalajoki died 1845
Thomas born April 26,1845 Kalajoki died 1845
Johannes born April 6,1846
Niklas born nov. 11,1848
Pehr born Jan.22,1852 Kalajoki died 1854...all in Kalajoki.
Matti Esanpoika Penttila (Officail Swedish name at the time, as stated in church records: Matts Esaiasson Bengila) died age 40 July 14,1874 Kalajoki
Wife Liisa Stiina Johanintytar Silfverberg born June 19,1834 died age 28 April 26,1869 Kalajoki. They were joined in marriage June 29,1855. Children
Esaias Edvard born April 22,1856 died age 31 March 31,1934 Kalajoki. Surname later Mustonen. Wife Kustaava Johanintytar Pahikkala born Oct. 5,1857 Kalajoki died July 19,1937
Anna Matilda born March 24,1858 died May 17,1858
Sofia Kristiina born Nov. 1,1859 died July 10,1879. Spouse Henrik Kivioja born Jan.20,1854 Kalajoki died Nov. 15,1926.
Matti born Aug. 11,1862 died April 18,1863
Liisa born Feb.5,1865 died June 9,1894. Spouse Eeliel Vedenoja born Dec.21,1860 Kalajoki died March 13,1932.
Second wife of Matti, Kustaava Antitytar Kaanta born July 16,1841 Kalajoki died age 85 Feb.22,1927 Kalajoki. Joined in marriage April 11,1870. Children
Antti Born March 8,1871 Kalajoki. Left for U.S.A. 1889