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Karen K
15-05-07, 21:01
Hi, I'm searching for ANY information on the following

Jaako [Jacob ?] Palokangas born July 27, 1840.. probably in Evijarvi..Died Sept. 9,, 1916 Finland. May have married Maria Nelimark.. Neljamark or Wertanen. Parents may have been Juha and Kaisa Jaakontr Nelimark. Maria is believed to have been bornnFeb. 25, 1846 in Evijarvi and died Oct. 23, 1911 in Finland, unknown where.

They had the following known children Alexander bornSept. 17, 1867 Kortesjarvi....came to U.S. 1890..Married about 1888 in Finland to Sanna Maria Jutilla who came to U.S. 1893 with son Nikolai born about 1890 in Finland.

Johanna born Nov. 12, 1873 in Finland...came to U.S. 1890s...married Isak Kanniainen [Kan] in Dec 1897 probably in Minnesota.

Emma born July 25, 1869 in Finland, Married Herman Wartanen who apparently took the name Palo. Were probably married in Finland before 1891.
Came to U.S. WHEN ?

Would appreciate Any help on this family. Thank you, Karen

Karen Norwillo
15-05-07, 22:46
I'll start with Johanna. I found her in several census in Rice River Township, Aitkin, MN. I'll do her first to save someone else duplicating efforts.

1900 Census Aitkin, MN township 46
Kan, Isaac, 39, Dec 1860, married 2 yrs, Finland, US 1888, in US 11 yrs, farmer
Johanna, 24, Dec 1875, 2 children, US 1895, in US 4 yrs.
children: Abram 12, Dec 1888, born Finland, must be Isaac's son
Helmi 1, Nov 1898, MN and Oscar, 2/12, MN
Mari Kan, 67, mother, Mar 1833, widow, married 30 yrs, 8 children, 6 living
Assumption, Isaac must have been a widower when he married Johanna.

1920 census, Rice River, Aitkin, MN

Isaac is 59, farmer
Hanna (Johanna) 45, now has US 1892
children:
Oscar 19, farmer, home farm
Hanna 18, servant, private family
Hulda 17
Sofia 12
Annie 10
Aino J 8
Jacob 6
Lily 1
Entry directly above has Hjalmar Johnson, farmer, wife Helmi, 21, MN, Elsie E 4
Wiljo 3 and Abraham Kan, 32, single, boarder, Finland, US 1894, laborer, logging. I assume Helmi is Helmi Kan. That makes 9 children for Johanna and Isaac Kan.

Karen Norwillo
15-05-07, 23:34
Alexander Palo and family.
1900 census Township 60, St Louis, MN

Palo Alexander 32, Aug 1867, Finn, US 1889, farmer
Sanna M 30 Nov 1869, Finn, US 1892, married 13 yrs, 8 children, 6 living
Nicholai, 10, July 1889, Finn, US 1892
John J 6, Jan 1894, MN
Alexander 5, May 1895, MN
Walter 3, Nov 1896, MN
Hilja M 1, jUN 1898, MN
Rina A 2/12, Mar 1900, MN

1910 Embarras, St Louis, MN
Alex is 43, Sanna 41, married at 22, 10 children, 8 living
John J 16, Alex 14, Walter 13, Hilja 11, Raina 10, Lempi 8, Anna E 7

1930 census Embarras, St Louis, MN

Alex Sr is 62, says married at 19, Sanna M is 60, married at 17, Walter is 33, single, tractor driver public highway, Helia (Hilja) is 31, single and there is an Arthur G Pantsari, adopted son, 16. Alex is still farming.

Palo, Alex Jr, 34, married at 27, no job listed. Wife Helmi, 29, MN.
Edmund W, 5 and Allen M 2/12, MN
Palo, John, 36, married at 22, MN, farmer. Wife Martha, 35, Finland, daughter Mary (adopted) 15, MN
These are all in Embarass, MN
Just below these entries is
Palo, Isaac 52, married at 20, Finland, US 1901, farmer.
Wife Hilda 51, Finland, US 1904
children John J 22, MN, laborer steam railroad, Matt A 18, MN, Lauri E 17, MN and Arthur C 9, MN.

Karen Norwillo
16-05-07, 00:34
Do you know Emma Palokangas middle name? I found 2 Herman Palo in MN, neither married to an Emma. Found one in St Louis County and one in Aitkin County. I can't find her under Emma Wartanen either, in fact all spellings have Wirtanen, but no Emma or Herman.
There are many Palo in the MN Death Index. I'll try to match the names I found in the census. Same with the Kan names. But not til tomorrow, I'm tired. Karen

Karen K
16-05-07, 01:38
Thank you Karen for your help !! I do have some of the info you sent. Didn't have all the Palo census though. The Herman Palo in Aitkin county is the right one but Emma died and he had remarried by then . To a Hanna I think? Don't have all my info handy so I'm not sure of her name. Would be interested in the Herman you found in St. Louis County. Don't know if he might be Emma and Herman's son as they had a son Herman also. I think his name was actually Art but he went by Herman .

Yes, Isak Kan was married in Finland and Abram was his son from that marriage. There may also have been a daughter who died in Finland. I've been trying to find out something about his 1st wife but nothing so far !! Abram was born in Kerala, Oulu...Jan. 8, 1888. Do you have any idea where Kerala is or was ? Well, will go for now. Thank you again for your help. Have a good night.

Karen

Karen Norwillo
16-05-07, 02:50
I don't know what you have in death info, but here's what I found.

Sanna Maria Palo died 30 May 1932 in St Louis County, MN
John J Palo born 8 Jan 1894, died 12 Dec 1972 Biwabik, St Louis, MN mmn Jyntila
Martha Palo 6 Jul 1895, died 17 Dec 1971 in Ely, St Louis, MN
Alexander Palo Jr 1 May 1895, died Jan 1972 in Anoka, MN
Walter Palo 28 Nov 1896, died 6 Apr 1979 in Virginia, St Louis, MN
Isaac Kan died 16 Feb 1939 in Aitkin, MN
Abraham Kan 23 Dec 1888, died 15 May 1971 in Aitkin, MN, birth agrees with 1900 census month.
Helmi Johnson 14 Nov 1898, died 27 Mar 1991, Carlton, MN mmn Palo
Oscar Kann died 25 Dec 1928 in Aitkin, MN
Helmi E Palo 1 Jun 1902, died 16 Jun 1997 in Sauk Rapids, Benton, MN mmn Kyrola. This is Alex Jr's wife.
Alexander Palo, no birth date, died 16 Feb 1943 in St Louis, MN. I think this is Alex Sr. ???
I'll look at the 2 Herman Palo's in the census for you. Karen

Karen Norwillo
16-05-07, 03:07
1910 Census for Rice River, Aitkin,MN
Palo Herman 40, married 2, US 1891, farmer
Hanna V, 36, married 1,
Lempi J 16, MN. Emma L 12, MN. Herman A 6, MN and Hulda J 3, MN.
I have to go back and recheck the info. I believe it says 1 yr. in present marriage, which would make children Emma's.

Karen Norwillo
16-05-07, 15:54
Yes, it says 1 years in present marriage. I still can't find the family in 1900. Emma should have been alive at least until 1907 if the children are all hers.

Karen Norwillo
16-05-07, 20:50
Karen,
It looks like Herman married for a third time. In 1920, I find him still in Rice River, Aitkin, MN, but now he's married to a Sofia, age 37, Finland, US 1903. Arthur H 16, MN. This must be Herman A. Hulda J is 13, Henry F 6 and William 4. Lempi and Emma must be married or out working. There are 3 men listed as servants, but their jobs say laborer general farm. They are John Maki 32, Sali Siptola 40 and Otto Hoka 30, all from Finland. Karen

Karen Norwillo
16-05-07, 21:17
Forgot to add. You asked abot Kerälä. It is in Oulu, Northern Ostrobothnia. Nearby towns are Kyngas, Riekki, Hiltula and Taipale. Closest airport is Pudasjärvi. This is from a Google search.

Karen Norwillo
16-05-07, 23:18
I went back and checked the 1900 census, Aitkin county, township 46 and, lo and behold, there was Herman and Emma. Don't know why it didn't come up. It's clearly them. Did a page by page search. Only 3 pages.

Palo, Herman, Apr 1870, age 30, married 10 yrs. US 1891, Finland, farmer
Palo, Emma, July 1872, 27, 4 children, 3 living, US 1893
Palo, Selma, July 1891, 8, says born Finland ???
Palo, Lempi, Oct 1893, 6, MN
Palo, Emma, Apr 1898, 2, MN

Hanna V Palo, Herman's second wife, died 11 Aug 1911.

Karen Norwillo
16-05-07, 23:56
Here's a copy of the 1920 census for Embarras, MN. You'll find 3 Palo families on it.

Karen K
17-05-07, 01:58
Hi again....Thanks for all the info. We were gone all day so didn't have much time to DIGEST it all but there were some things I want to check into further. You just might have solved one of my mysteries !!!! I found an Emma Palo Pouti buried in a cemetery near where they lived but haven't been able to connect her. Now I'm going to check some other stuff and see what I come up with. I also didn't know that Herman [the father] had been married a third time . Or when Hanna died . So you're filling in lots of missing peices. THANK YOU !!

Also thanks for finding Kerala for me ! Now I have a better idea where to look.

Will go for now and get some supper going and get back to you again soon.. Karen

Hasse
26-06-07, 22:51
Hi, I'm searching for ANY information on the following

Jaako [Jacob ?] Palokangas born July 27, 1840.. probably in Evijarvi..Died Sept. 9,, 1916 Finland. May have married Maria Nelimark.. Neljamark or Wertanen. Parents may have been Juha and Kaisa Jaakontr Nelimark. Maria is believed to have been bornnFeb. 25, 1846 in Evijarvi and died Oct. 23, 1911 in Finland, unknown where.

They had the following known children Alexander bornSept. 17, 1867 Kortesjarvi....came to U.S. 1890..Married about 1888 in Finland to Sanna Maria Jutilla who came to U.S. 1893 with son Nikolai born about 1890 in Finland.

Johanna born Nov. 12, 1873 in Finland...came to U.S. 1890s...married Isak Kanniainen [Kan] in Dec 1897 probably in Minnesota.

Emma born July 25, 1869 in Finland, Married Herman Wartanen who apparently took the name Palo. Were probably married in Finland before 1891.
Came to U.S. WHEN ?

Would appreciate Any help on this family. Thank you, Karen

Karen,

As you may have seen I have been trying an exchange of searches between Finlander and the Finnish/Swedish language Suku forum. This your search was one of the first I entered into the exchange. I hope that this technique can be useful for extending some of the searches in Finland that we aren't getting solved here on Finlander.

Now you have got feedback regarding this search. I quote:


I have some information about this family. Herman got a proof for Amerika 5.1.1891. Nikolai was born 23.7.1890 in Kortesjärvi. Jaakko's parents were Matti Pesonen 9.4.1817 Evijärvi, Särkijärvi, Pesonen and his wife Maria's parents Matti Kupila/Wertanen b. 8.12.1812 in Evijärvi and Maria Norrena 17.2.1817 in Evijärvi

You may see the full reply in the Suku forum behind this (http://suku.genealogia.fi/showthread.php?t=207) link.

Karen K
27-06-07, 01:15
Hasse,

Thank you so much !!!!!! Ithink this information may be the key I've been looking for. Thank you again... Karen

Ed Mickelson
27-06-07, 03:30
Just a quick look in the phone book for the area of Embarrass,,there are plenty of Palos in the area and also a community of Palo..It is north of Duluth about 50 miles..Ed

Evie
06-02-12, 01:24
Hi! I have the entire Palokangas family tree back to 1545 and almost all descendants to 2012. Jaakko was born July 23, 1843 as Jaakko Palokangas Iso-Pellinen Mattson in Evijarvi. His father was Matti Pesonen, mother was Kaisa Karvonen.
Jaakko married Maria Vertanen 2 15-1846 to 10-23-1941. They had 9 children:
Herman
Isaaco Jacob
Jaakko
Alexander Karvonen-Palokangas
Maria Isopellinen
Liisa Palo
Liisa Karvonen Iso-Pellinen

Alexander married Sanna Maria Jutila Nov 17 1869 to 5 30 1932. They had 9 children.

I can send you the entire tree or you can access it on ancestry.com. I just finished it this last month after 7 years!

Karen K
08-02-12, 00:18
Hi, I hope you get my message I sent as a personal message. I seem to have some problems with the log in sometimes and things don't work....... It would be great to get the family info you mentioned. I've been working on it for quite a while too but kind of off and on. Also have worked on other parts of the family and my Husbands family. Do you have the Wertanen/Vertanen and Nelimark connection? I received a lot of info from the Nelimark website. It 's still a little confusing....... I have some pictures of Jaako's daughter Johanna, who was my grandmother, and her family that I could e mail you if you'd like. Do you have any pictures of the family? HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON. KAREN............................

Hasse
08-02-12, 11:33
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