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Karen Norwillo
14-06-07, 02:08
Could someone who has full access to Emigrant Register check the passport listing to see if the Johannes Långsjö born 1876 was from Esse. My Johannes was born 16 June 1876. I found 3 possible entries for him in the passenger
list 25.05.1901, 15.07.1903 and 30.05.1906. I found a 16 Jun 1906 listing for a Johan Langsjo in the Canada-US Border Crossings. Says he's from Esse going to Douglas City, Alaska to friend Alfred Andersson. There is also a small notation of Seattle, WA. Maybe going to Alaska by way of Seattle?? I didn't know he had emigrated, but I have no date of death for him. My info says he married Maja Andersdotter Kroksjö born 1886, but not where or when. I have no date of death for her either. They had at least 2 children, Edna Elvira born 1901 and Levi Johannes born 1903. I don't know where they were born.
Johannes was the brother of my granmother Anna Lovisa Andersdotter Långsjö. Karen

sune
14-06-07, 21:22
Långsjö is a farm in Överlappfors village in Esse.

Sune

Karen Norwillo
15-06-07, 00:14
Thank you, Sune. I know all that. I have an extensive history on the family, except lose track of Johannes. Have visited the Långsjö farm where my grandmother was born. She was Johannes sister. Family in Finland has his date of birth, as well as the dates (years only)for his wife and children, but don't seem to know where they died. His brother's one remaining child is still alive, but she doesn't remember. Once heard Evijärvi, but can't prove or disprove. Children supposedly were born in Esse, but can't prove that either. Maybe Kaj Granlund will come through for me. If they were born there, they'd be in his parish records. Karen

Denise
15-06-07, 04:38
Hi Karen,
Here is what I found from Migration Institute.

Denise



Passport Information

Last name Långsjö
First names Johannes
Other names *
Date of birth . .1876
Marital status 1
Religion Lut.
Occupation Itsell. pka
Home parish Kortesjärvi
Province VAA
Passport date .07.1903
Passport number 0
Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by HKO
Remarks *





Last name Långsjö
First names Juho
Other names *
Date of birth . .1876
Marital status 2
Religion Lut.
Occupation Taloll.
Home parish Evijärvi
Province VAA
Passport date 09.05.1906
Passport number 2821
Passport valid (year:month) 5:00
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by VAA
Remarks Sj vmo ja 3 lasta.






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Passenger Information

Last name Långsjö
First names Johan
Age or age group 24
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Negaunee
State of destination MI
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 317
Ship from Finland Arcturus
Date of departure from Finland 25.05.1901
Ship from England *
Date of departure from England . .9999
Ocean Line American Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 13/59
Remarks *






Last name Långsjö
First names Johan
Age or age group 25
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination New York
State of destination NY
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 202
Ship from Finland Polaris
Date of departure from Finland 15.07.1903
Ship from England Lucania
Date of departure from England 25.07.1903
Ocean Line Cunard Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 36/39
Remarks *




Last name Långsjö
First names Johan
Age or age group 30
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Seattle
State of destination WA
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 467
Ship from Finland Arcturus
Date of departure from Finland 30.05.1906
Ship from England Canada
Date of departure from England 07.06.1906
Ocean Line Dominion Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 49/15
Remarks *

Denise
15-06-07, 04:57
Hi Karen,
Here are Farm Names of dwellers from Migration Institute. Maybe they will help you.
Best Regards,
Denise

Dwellers Name- Parish Name- Village Name- Farm Name/Status- Time Period
Långsjö Kortesjärvi Ylikylä Back No 4 1853-1859
Långsjö Kortesjärvi Kortesjärvi Fattiga, pg 271 1853-1859
Långsjö Ähtävä Lappfors Häll No 4 1858-1866
Långsjö Ähtävä Övre Lappfors Högbacka No 3 1858-1866
Långsjö Kauhava Ylikylä Huhmarkoski No 14 1854-1860
Långsjö Kauhava Alakylä Järvenpää No 20 1854-1860
Långsjö Kortesjärvi Rantala Jutila No 6 1853-1859
Långsjö Kauhava Alakylä Lammi No 17 1854-1860
Långsjö Kauhava Alakylä Mäenpää No 18 1854-1860
Långsjö Kauhava Alakylä Mäenpää No 18 1854-1860
Långsjö Alahärma Alahärmä Markkula No 15 1853-1860
Långsjö Kortesjärvi Ylikylä Norrbacka No 1 1853-1859

Denise
15-06-07, 05:03
Hi Karen,
Here are Sheriff's Records from Migration Institute.

Denise


Last Name- First Name- Home Parish- Born In- Destination
Långsjö Elvira Uusikaarlepyy 1899-July-05 1926 Canada
Långsjö Astrid Viola Uusikaarlepyy 1923-Dec-04 1926 Canada
Långsjö Fanny Munsala 1896-Jan-10 1916 America
Långsjö Joho Einar Kustaanpoika Kauhava 1897-Aug-24 1924 Australia
Långsjö Klara Vaasa 1908-Nov-10 1923 Abroad
Långsjö Sven Edvin Uusikaarlepyy 1937-May-01 1958 to sea

Karen Norwillo
15-06-07, 16:34
Thanks Denise,
The 1906 emigration seems like the most promising. It matches the arrival and ship I found. That arrival says he's from Esse, which is where Johannes was born. Only thing is the 3rd child, but maybe Maja had another between 1903 and 1906. The Elvira could be Edna Elvira. I only have birth years for her and Levi and those were ?? I'll be in Kingsford and Crystal Falls next month from 19-23. My sister and I arrive abt noon in Iron Mountain and leave on Monday the 23 abt noon to go back to PA. Would love to see you.
Karen

Kaj Granlund
15-06-07, 17:21
Karen
3rd child is Silja Maria born 24 Jan 1906 in Evijärvi. The first notation I have about Johannes emigrations is 1900 (or maybe 1901) cause he was one of the frunner ups for the Russian army if any of the ordinary did die or escape. But It seems he returned. Family moved to Evijärvi 27 Sept 1906 and returned to Esse 4 Dec 1929 from Pedersöre. This later date might also be that they moved from Ess to Pedersöre i 1929, some of this information conserning coming and going got mixed up as I converted my data some year ago. Do you need more from here?

Karen Norwillo
16-06-07, 00:57
Thank you so much, Kaj. Do you have the birthdates for the other two children? I only have years as 1901 and 1903 in Esse. Do you have death dates for any of the family? Did they die in Esse? Was Johannes with the family when they went to Evijärvi in 1906? If he was, then it was not he who emigrated to US/Canada in June. I appreciate your help. Karen

Kaj Granlund
16-06-07, 12:16
I did this today. As you see some of them emigrated. But did they stay or not I didn't have to possibility to check today. dates in DD-MM-YYYY. With Johannes, it is of course difficult to kno if the wife and children went to Evijärvi adn he was abroad, but was officially transfered with the family. NOTE the conversion had mixed the dates in this family. Here are the correct ones.

Johannes SJÖBERG born LÅNGSJÖ, other name Hernesaho used in Evijärvi, current name Sjöberg, b. 16-06-1876 in Esse, d. ---, emigrated 1900 to USA. He married Maja Andersdotter SJÖBERG born KROKSJÖ, married 24-11-1900 in Esse, resided (family) 30-09-1905 - 27-09-1906 in Evijärvi, resided (family) 27-09-1906 - 04-12-1929 in Esse, resided (family) 04-12-1929 in Pedersöre, b. 07-09-1876 in Esse, d. ---.
I. Edna Elvira ELG earlier LÅNGSJÖ, b. 16-11-1901 in Esse, d. ---, resided 16-11-1901 - 30-09-1905 in Esse, resided 30-09-1905 - 27-09-1906 in Evijärvi, resided 27-09-1906 - 07-04-1932 in Esse. She married Johannes ELG, married 10-08-1924, resided (family) 07-04-1932 - ? in Pedersöre, b. 30-01-1899 in Esse, (son of Johan Adolf Alex.sn. ELG and Maja Lisa Karlsdr ELG t LILLQVIST) d. ---, resided - 01-05-1922 in Helsingfors Norra sv.förs., resided 01-05-1922 - 07-04-1932 in Esse, occupation Pilot.
A. Sven Rurik Johannes ELG, b. 03-07-1925 in Esse, d. ---, resided 03-07-1925 - 07-04-1932 in Esse, resided 07-04-1932 in Pedersöre.
II. Levi Johannes LÅNGSJÖ, b. 17-09-1903 in Esse, d. ?, resided 17-09-1903 - 30-09-1905 in Esse, resided 30-09-1905 - 27-09-1906 in Evijärvi, resided in Esse, emigrated 1926 to Canada.
III. Silja Maria SJÖBERG t HERNESAHO, b. 24-01-1906 in Evijärvi, d. ---, resided 24-01-1906 - 27-09-1906 in Evijärvi, resided 27-09-1906 - 27-04-1935 in Esse, resided 27-04-1935 in Pedersöre (?) emigrated 1929 to Canada.

Karen Norwillo
16-06-07, 16:57
Thank you so much, Kaj. I really appreciate your time and effort for me. Karen

Denise
16-06-07, 18:07
Hi Karen,
We're hoping to get away for a few days around the 4th of July. We'll be going to my Mom's in Rabbit Bay. I have never been to Crystal Falls; always pass the road sign that points out Crystal Falls, but blow right by as it is about an hour or so each way, out of our way, to go there. I hope you have a great time, summer is always beautiful in the U.P. of Michigan. Someday I hope to have the time to check out Crystal Falls. Would love to figure out where in Evergreen Cemetery my great grandfather, Anselm Yli-Kuusijärvi, aka Andrew Lake, is buried. They have no marker or record at the cemetery, and his daughter, Helvi (Helen), Toini's sister, told me he was buried there. I'd like to spend some time in the courthouse there also because I have just started on my mother's paternal grandparents, Kankaanpää, and many ended up in Crystal Falls too. There are also Matson's that are related, name changed from something like Rukenuus. So many unanswered questions, and never any time off to figure it all out. Maybe someday, when I'm old and gray! :(

Take care,
Have fun,
Love,
Denise

Karen Norwillo
17-06-07, 23:52
If anyone has access to the British Columbia death index, would you check for a 1952 death for a Levi John Sjoberg. I don't have access to it with my Ancestry subscription so the only thing I could get was his year of death. I'm wondering if it's Levi Johannes (Långsjö) Sjoberg, son of Johannes and Maja.
He was born 17.09.1903 in Esse, Finland. Thanks, Karen

Denise
18-06-07, 01:36
Hi Karen,
Here is Levi's death record on Ancestry.com.

Take care,
Denise

British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979
Name: Levi John Sjoberg
Gender: Male
Age: 50
Death Date: 26 Dec 1952
Place of Death: Vancouver
Registration #: 1952-09-012483
bca #: B13214
gsu #: 2032863



Source Information:
Ancestry.com. British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979

Denise
18-06-07, 01:52
Hi Karen,
Here are all Sjöberg's listed in British Columbia, Canada for deaths on Ancestry.

Denise



Name Gender Age Death Date Place of Death Registration # bca # gsu #

Arvid Johannes Sjoberg Male 39 23 Jun 1939 Vancouver 1939-09-558460 B13165 1953625
Carl Rudolf Sjoberg Male 62 11 Dec 1960 Vancouver 1960-09-014817 B13249 2033347
Edith Maria Sjoberg Female 6 28 Dec 1926 Vancouver 1926-09-367889 B13128 1927305
Emelie Syster J Sjoberg Female 65 18 Mar 1969 Nelson 1969-09-004700 B13295 2034056
Eric Sjoberg Male 28 24 Oct 1918 Prince Rupert 1918-09-225970 B13113 1927141
Eric Sjoberg Male 47 22 Oct 1951 Nelson 1951-09-009854 B13209 2032701
Erik Emanuel Sjoberg Male 69 14 Feb 1970 White Rock 1970-09-003551 B13302 2034113
Fred Rune Sjoberg Male 59 5 Jun 1975 Sointula 1975-09-009875 B13343 2050443
Gladys Jeannette Sjoberg Female 61 17 Jul 1979 Youbou 1979-09-013290 B13597 2055132
Gunnor Evold Sjoberg Male 31 4 Jun 1936 Vancouver 1936-09-515355 B13156 1953020
Haakon Sjoberg Male 70 15 Feb 1969 Prince Rupert 1969-09-003301 B13295 2034056
Herman Julius Sjoberg Male 40 5 May 1914 Yale 1914-09-204511 B13112 1927140
Johannes Sjoberg Male 61 2 May 1965 Nelson 1965-09-006086 B13272 2033725
John Sjoberg Male 52 1 May 1921 Ryan 1921-09-292461 B13120 1927297
John Albert Sjoberg Male 83 2 Nov 1971 Victoria 1971-09-015205 B13313 2034264
Knut Philip Sjoberg Male 80 24 Jan 1975 Victoria 1975-09-002109 B13340 2050440
Kurt Axel G S Sjoberg Male 73 7 Jul 1958 Victoria 1958-09-007636 B13237 2033178
Levi John Sjoberg Male 50 26 Dec 1952 Vancouver 1952-09-012483 B13214 2032863
Olga Emelia Sjoberg Female 65 29 Aug 1974 Nanaimo 1974-09-013899 B13336 2050340
Signe Sjoberg Female 79 17 Jan 1977 1977-09-006618 B13576 2050947
Thelma Marea Sjoberg Female 65 8 Aug 1973 Saanich 1973-09-011077 B13326 2050139
Virginia Alice Sjoberg Female 24 25 Sep 1977 New Westminster 1977-09-014322 B13579 2050950
Vittus Andersson Sjoberg Male 47 11 Aug 1932 Hansen Island 1932-09-474775 B13146 1952657



Source Information:
Ancestry.com. British Columbia Death Index: 1872 to 1979

Denise
18-06-07, 01:59
Hi Karen,
Thought these might prove helpful at some point.

Denise

British Columbia Marriage Index: 1872 to 1924
Name: EINAR HOLGER PLAMBECK
Bride: IDA AUGUSTA SJOBERG
Marriage Date: 5 May 1923
Place: VANCOUVER
bca number: B13745
Registration Number: 1923-09-259887
GSU Number: 2074227



Source Information:
Ancestry.com. British Columbia Marriage Index: 1872 to 1924

British Columbia Marriage Index: 1872 to 1924
Name: KURT AXEL SJOBERG
Bride: SADIE ELIZABETH WEBB
Marriage Date: 29 Nov 1920
Place: VICTORIA
bca number: B12904
Registration Number: 1920-09-217261
GSU Number: 2032873



Source Information:
Ancestry.com. British Columbia Marriage Index: 1872 to 1924


British Columbia Marriage Index: 1872 to 1924
Name: AXEL ROBERT WICK
Bride: ANNA ESTER K SJOBERG
Marriage Date: 28 Jul 1923
Place: VANCOUVER
bca number: B13745
Registration Number: 1923-09-260275
GSU Number: 2074227



Source Information:
Ancestry.com. British Columbia Marriage Index: 1872 to 1924