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June Pelo
18-06-07, 21:30
Once again I have a request for help. Caroline Jacobson, b. 15 Dec. 1856 in Sweden, emigrated to the US and in Chicago ca 1880 she married Jacob Alfred Carlsson Wefvar-Weaver, b. 26 Feb 1854, Karleby, Finland. They had 7 children born in Chicago between 1882-1897, before moving to Colorado before 1913 because of the poor health of daughter Mabel. We're trying to find out where in Sweden Caroline was born and hope her birthplace will show up somewhere. We think her father was Jacob Jacobsson. Ingemar is searching for the family in Sweden, but the search would be easier if we knew more about Caroline.

Thanks,

June

Denise
19-06-07, 05:15
Hi June,
This looks like Jacob in this census, widowed, and only one son, still living with him. I'm still trying to find earlier census' with wife, and rest of the children. It appears his surname has many spellings, and his age is definitely incorrect, 765 years! :eek: I'll keep checking. Were they married before coming to America?

Denise


1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Jacob A Wevar
Home in 1920: Precinct 17, Pueblo, Colorado
Age: 765 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1872
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 124
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob A Wevar 765
Alfred S Wevar 22




Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Precinct 17, Pueblo, Colorado; Roll: T625_170; Page: 14A; Enumeration District: 198; Image: 124.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1920 United States Federal Census

Denise
19-06-07, 05:41
Hi June,
Here is the 1900 Census, surname "Waiver" at that time. Wife, Carolina, was born Dec. 1856, and she states in Russia, immigrated 1880. Husband Jacob immigrated 1882 on this census, birthplace Russia too, occupation- car builder. They state they were married for 19 years. Theoda is listed as their niece, born in Sweden and immigrated in 1900. All the children were born in Illinois.

Denise

1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Jacob Waiver
Home in 1900: Chicago Ward 6, Cook, Illinois
Age: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Birthplace: Russia
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Carolina
Race: White
Occupation: View image
Immigration Year: 1882
Household Members: Name Age
Jacob Waiver 46
Carolina Waiver 43
Alfrieda Waiver 17
Herman Waiver 14
Eweliny Waiver 12
Lilie Waiver 8
Mable Waiver 5
Alfred Waiver 2
Theoda Waiver 19





Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Chicago Ward 6, Cook, Illinois; Roll: T623 251; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 172.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1900 United States Federal Census

Denise
19-06-07, 05:53
Hi June,
Here is the 1910 Census taken in Colorado. Now Carolina states she was born in Sweden, as well as her parents, had 8 children, 6 living. Husband, Jacob states he immigrated in 1870 on this one! and he was a car inspector on the railroad. They state they have been married 29 years.

Denise

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: J A Weaver
[G A Weaver]
Age in 1910: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Spouse's name: Carolina
Home in 1910: Pueblo Ward 8, Pueblo, Colorado
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1870
Household Members: Name Age
J A Weaver 55
Carolina Weaver 53
Herman Weaver 24
Mabel Weaver 15
Alfrey Weaver 12




Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Pueblo Ward 8, Pueblo, Colorado; Roll: T624_124; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 177; Image: 1442.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census

June Pelo
19-06-07, 18:53
Hi Denise,

Thanks for finding all that info. It's more than the family has ever known. I just heard from Wendie and she said: Mable was born at 2327 West 35th Place, Chicago, IL... Some of the family are in Oakwood Cemetery in Chicago.

And, yes, I guess there are different spellings of Wefvar, probably they spelled it close to the way it sounded. She also indicated that they don't know much about the family before they moved to Colorado. She was trying to find a date when Caroline came to the US. She indicated that the couple were married in Chicago ca 1880 because their first child was born there in 1882.

The children:
Freda, b. 1882-1962, CA
Alfred, b. 1885-1895, IL
Herman, b. 1886- 1949, MN
Evelyn, b. 1888 - 1961, Pueblo, CO
Lillian, b. 1892 - 1972, CO
Mable, b. 1895 - 1913, CO
Alfred, b. 1897 - 1952, CO

Ingemar found a Jakobsdotter, Carolina Mathilda, unmarried, b. 15 Dec 1856 in Råda, Sweden, who emigrated 5 July 1879. So far that's the closest he can find a Caroline Jacobsson.

I'll send your data to Wendie and see if it stirs any memories.

June

Denise
19-06-07, 19:14
Hi June,
I saw that same passenger record, and that was the closest I could find on Carolina too! I'll keep looking.

Denise

Denise
19-06-07, 19:25
Hi June,
Here are the actual census' for 1900, 1910, 1920 on Jacob.

Denise

Karen Norwillo
19-06-07, 20:04
June,
I posted a query on Rötter this AM and got a reply already.
There was a Carolina Matilda Jakobsdotter born 15 Dec 1856 in Råda who emigrated 5 July 1879 from Hedvig Eleonora parish in Stockholms stad to North Amerika.
sources: SVAR Flyttningslängd Vol. Hedvig Eleonora BIIA:14.10/16 s. 612
Emibas emigrations.
If this is the correct one, I can backtrack on Genline to see if I can find the family. Karen

Karen Norwillo
19-06-07, 21:16
June,
I looked on Genline. There are 2 Råda. One in Skaraborg and one in Götborg och Bohus. I didn't find her on either birth lists. I did find her moving-in and out records from Hedvig Eleonora. She moved in 19 Nov 1878 and out 5 July 1879. Unfortunately, this parish has abbreviated moving-in records. Most of the others have where they were born, where they came from just previous.
Karen

June Pelo
20-06-07, 01:22
Thank you, Karen. Ingemar also found something that mentioned Hedvig Eleonora. Unfortunately he is in the process of moving and will have to drop the search for now.

Denise found a niece Theoda, age 19, in the 1900 census - she emigrated from Sweden 1900 and was living with Jacob and Caroline. Wendie thinks that Caroline had a sister (name unknown) and perhaps Theoda was her daughter. Nothing much is known about Caroline, otherwise.

June

June Pelo
20-06-07, 01:30
Ingemar sent me the following before he leaves on a trip, and he hopes this is the correct family. I wonder if one of the daughters (Johanna, Stina, Anna or Eva had a daughter who emigrated 1900?):

It must be Råda in Värmland, since the first page in the birth record states Råda Värmland.

I found the family in the communion book 1856- 1860 GID 533.14.15700,
page 146 Backa Norra, in Råda: (and page 231 for years 1847 -1850).

Jakob Johansson b 20/8 1808 in Råda re-married as widow 27/10 1848 to
Anna Kajsa Bengtsdotter b 13/5 1812 in Wisnum?
8 children are recorded but the oldest from the previous marriage
Johanna b 6/8 1837 (illegitime son Carl Johan b 10/4? 1857)
Stina Maria b 14/10 1839
Anna Kajsa b 15/8? 1843
Augusta Helena b 18?/8 1849
Johan Jakob b 2/11 1851
Eva Sofia b 2_?/4 1854
Carolina Mathilda b 15/12 1856
Bengt August b 15/12 1859

The information above is from the scanned church records, ref to www.genline.se

June

Karen Norwillo
20-06-07, 17:12
June,
Here are some Genline records that Ingmar might want to check out when he has time.
Household Examination Rolls 553.13.63700, 533.25.23600, 533.26.34900. These go from 1851-1880. On the last one he will find Carolina and her sister Eva Sofia going to Karlskoga in Örebro and Augusta Helena and daughter to Amerika in 1875.
533.19.9200 has the birth of Carolina Matilda in Backa Norra, Söder Råda, Skaraborg Värmland. Records must be combined for these two places in that time.
2458.66.56600 shows Carolina moving-in to Bofors, Karlskoga, Örebro 1873and moving-out 1875 29/10 back to Råda.

June Pelo
20-06-07, 17:26
Thanks, Karen. I hope Ingemar gets moved quickly, and will send him what you found.

June

Karen Norwillo
20-06-07, 21:24
June,
More Genline numbers.
533.29.18800 1881-1885
533.30.43500 1886-1890
533.31.2600 1886-1890 this one shows the family of Carolina's sister Anna Cajsa 1843 15/8 and her husband Erland Faly. 3 of their children also show on her parent's household roll. 3 of them emigrated to Amerika, Augusta Faly in 1893 and Frans and Otto Faly in 1895.
533.32.6600 shows the dates of death for Jakob Johansson 1894 11/4 and Anna Cajsa Bengtsdotter 1894 8/12. It also shows their son Johan Jakob 1851 2/11 and his family.
Hope this helps. It looks like quite a few of the family came to the US. Karen

June Pelo
20-06-07, 22:05
Thanks, Karen. I wish someone in Wendie's family could recognize some of these names. She asked me to thank you, Denise and Ingemar for your discoveries and is quite excited about them.

June

Karen Norwillo
20-06-07, 22:39
June,
I located the Faly/Faley's who emigrated in 1893 and 1895.Erland Faley and his two sons Otto and Frans emigrated in 1895 arriving SS Vancouver arriving Quebec May 18,1895. Says Erland was here in 1888. Wife must have died. Dest. Jamestown, NY.

1900 census Erland Faley, 62, widow, US 1888, father-in-law, in home of Frank Hofstedt and wife Hilsa and daughter Mabel in Jamestown, NY
1900 census in Ansonia, CT Charles Hermanson and wife Augusta, July 1878, US 1893 Sweden, Otto Faley, July 1882, US 1895.
1910 Bridgeport, CT
Charles Hermanson, 37, blacksmith, Agusta, 32, m1, 14 yrs, 5 child, 4 living, Arthur 12, Ruth 11, Mabel 8, Eric 7
1930 Bridgeport, CT
Erick Hermanson 25, wife Ann P 25, Charles 68, US 1892, blacksmith. Agusta 62, US 1893, Anna 16
SSDI
Augusta Hermanson 1 July 1877 - Aug 1964 in CT
This date of birth matches her records in Sweden.

1930 Ansonia, CT
Otto W. Faley, 43, m*42, Sweden, product mgr. metal mfg.
Pearl M 27, m*26, CT

The one reference I found to Frans besides his emigration was 1900 census in Jamestown, NY in the home of J.F.Faley 34 and wife Annie 26 and their son Elmer 3. He is called Frank, 16, brother, US 1895. That JF may be his brother Johan Teodor. The F may be a T.
Karen

June Pelo
21-06-07, 01:30
Karen,

Thank you. That was quite a find and I'll send it off to Wendie - hoping it will ring a bell with her. I know she'll be delighted to get it. It's a pity that no one thought to ask anything about Caroline while the older folks were still living.

June

Karen Norwillo
21-06-07, 18:03
June,
Here's all of Carolina's sister Anna and Erland Faley's children. Maybe more of them emigrated.
Johan Teodor 1865 1/5
Gustaf Gotfrid 1870 27/12
Anna Lovisa 1872 29/5
Augusta Helena 1877 1/7
Otto Walfrid 1880 11/6
Frans Emanuel 1883 4/9

June Pelo
21-06-07, 20:54
Thanks again, Karen. Gwen said there are only 2 members of Caroline's daughter Evelyn's family - one is 87 and the other 92 and they don't recall hearing any of the Faley names. What a pity.

June

June Pelo
22-06-07, 00:58
Wendie said that one of Caroline's descendants said that one of the sisters married a Peterson and had children: Ellen, Oscar, Clarence, Alvin and Arthur. Oscar and Ellen were still in Chicago in 1975. Caroline had sisters Eva Stina, Stina Maria and Augusta and we have no names of husbands for them. Augusta came to the US in 1875 with a daughter. Don't know if Eva Stina and Stina Maria emigrated. Sadly, no other names and dates are known.

June