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Kaarina
02-12-07, 11:06
George W. Bush ancerstors Swedish-Finnish???

http://epaper01.mmd.net/reader/?issue=511;5d14ca1ede929c645876e193359b04d3;7

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/uutinen.asp?id=1436631

Pirjo:rolleyes:

b hietala
05-12-07, 03:33
Pirjo .... I don't read Finnish.... what does this say in a nutshell? Don't tell me GWB has Finnish ancestory. Are you trying to wreck my day? :eek:

Kaarina
05-12-07, 10:14
George W. Bush ancerstors Swedish-Finnish???

http://epaper01.mmd.net/reader/?issue=511;5d14ca1ede929c645876e193359b04d3;7

http://www.iltasanomat.fi/uutiset/kotimaa/uutinen.asp?id=1436631

Pirjo:rolleyes:

One or other who know translate this links shortly??
Thanks
Pirjo:confused:

Jaska Sarell
05-12-07, 17:53
Ok. Let's try to quote the main content.

1. Researchers David Emmy and Peter Craig of the Swedish Colonial Society have proved that George Bush descends from Måns Andersson, who moved in 1640 to New Sweden colony from Värmland, Sweden. Possibly he came from Sillerud village, since he established a farm named Silleryd in Finland village in the Delaware River valley.
2. Finnish New Sweden colony researchers Salomon Ilmonen and E.A. Louhi had already in 1990 come to conclusion that Måns Andersson was of Finnish origin. That's impossible to verify from any documents, since Sillerud churck records have been burned and oldest regional archive documennts are from 1660.
3. Professor Veijo Salokorpi has noted that a Anders Haltuinen from Juva moved in 1633 to a region (in Värmland) where Måns Andersson possibly lived. Sillerud and its surroundings got a lot of settlers from Savo province of Finland, the so called forest Finns. Swedish researcher Helmer Linderholm has written that 4/5 of the Swedish inhabitants in the colony were Finns. Professor Juha Pentikäinen has said that instead of New Sweden, the colony should have been named New Finland. Måns Andersson's descents were known by names Mounts, Moune and Mounce, which more likely refer to Finnish name Mauno than Swedish name form Måns - similarly farm named Moumsfield.
4. Final truth of the origin of Måns Andersson will hardly ever be found.


Anyway if Måns Andersson was not a Swede he was Savonian, not really a Finn :D

:) Jaska

b hietala
06-12-07, 02:45
whew!!! that was close! ;)

JDKotila
06-12-07, 05:06
My Swedish ancestor Peter Gunnarsson Rambo(previously Ramberg) immigrated along with Måns Andersson on the "Kalmar Nyckel". Peter was from Gothenburg and married(1647) in the New Sweden Colony to Brita Mattsdotter (from Vasa,Finland) .

Regards,
John Kotila