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karvajalka
15-12-07, 22:26
Hi,
I am frensh retired near Versailles in France and I am trying to build the genealogic tree of my wife's family. She is Finnish and for the moment I identify her father""s family in Viipuri, Karelia, Finland:

Parish of Jääski, Karelia, Finland
first Name Born Village Father Mother
Johan Petter Helena
Mäkeläinen Koitalo

Karl Henrik 30.1.1865 Niemi ---> Grand father of my wife Erik Johan 14.5.1865 "
Anna Maria 11.11.1868 "
Petter 18.5.1870 "
Harma Sofia 17.11.1871 "
Johan Emil 25.11.1874 "
Anders 18.11.1876 "
Helena Betty 10.7.1878 "
Wilhelm 8.10.1879 "
Emma Mathilda 18.3.1881 "
Hilja Anna 22.8.1884 "
Wiktor 6.10.1886 "

Wilhelm and Wiktor emigrate to USA arriving in New York Feb 8.1907 by SS Baltic,having tickets for Chicago and finale destination Antti Kärpänen, 3818 Emera av.Chicago City.
For two Month I try to find a key to open closed doors in USA to find what happened with these two grand uncles.
I am also trying to find When and where Great Grand father Johan Petter Is Born;
Could some body help me ?
Best regards
Karvajalka

Jaska Sarell
15-12-07, 23:18
Bienvenue "Karvajalka"!

You are lucky, since Jääski communion books have been digitized up to 1879, at FFHA (Finnish Family History Association) site http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/index_eng.htm
From Church Records link you'll find Jääski listed. Select communion Book (rippikirja) for 1870-1879. Index shows Niemi village from image 169 (original page 177).
Page 179 (image 171) lists among others:
Färgaren Johan Petter Mäkeläinen 19/5 1838
Hru Helena Mattsd. Koitalo 29/6 1843 Taipalsaari

Helena's birth can be easily found in HisKi Taipalsaari records, but no place of birth is given for Johan Petter. Fortunately the date is correct, and in HisKi you can select all parishes. Put child name Johan Petter, and to year range enter exact birth date 19.5.1838 to both fields. Then you'll find that he was born in Juuka. Their marriage can be found in Viipuri on 2.10.1864.

Bon chance!

:) Jaska

karvajalka
16-12-07, 03:04
Hello Jaska
Thank you for your rapid and efficient answer! I will follow your proposal and tell you back the results.
Thank's again, paljon kiittoksia
Karvajalka

Denise
16-12-07, 18:17
Hello Karvajalka,
Thought I would start off by posting the N.Y. Passenger Record for Vilhelm and Viktor so everyone can see, and hopefully we will be able to help you out! :D


Best Regards,
Denise

Denise
16-12-07, 18:30
Hi,
On the Institute of Migration I found these records for Vilhelm and Viktor.

Denise


Detailed passport information
Last name Mäkeläinen
First names Vihtori
Other names *
Date of birth . .1886
Marital status 1
Religion *
Occupation Taloll. pka
Home parish Jääski
Province VII
Passport date 21.01.1907
Passport number 111
Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by VII
Remarks *

Detailed passenger information
Last name Mäkeläinen
First names Vihtori
Age or age group 20
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Chicago
State of destination IL
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 296
Ship from Finland Arcturus
Date of departure from Finland 23.01.1907
Ship from England Baltic
Date of departure from England 30.01.1907
Ocean Line White Star Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 52/30
Remarks *

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Detailed passport information
Last name Mäkeläinen
First names Vilhelm
Other names *
Date of birth . .1879
Marital status 1
Religion *
Occupation Talollinen
Home parish Jääski
Province VII
Passport date 21.01.1907
Passport number 112
Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by VII
Remarks *

Detailed passenger information
Last name Mäkeläinen
First names Vilhelm
Age or age group 27
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Chicago
State of destination IL
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 296
Ship from Finland Arcturus
Date of departure from Finland 23.01.1907
Ship from England Baltic
Date of departure from England 30.01.1907
Ocean Line White Star Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 52/30
Remarks *

Denise
16-12-07, 18:34
Hi,
I found this also on the Institute of Migration under Finnish Americans. It appears Viktor settled in Minnesota.

Denise

Detailed information (Finnish Americans)
Last name Mäkeläinen
First names Victor
County Bovey
State Minnesota
Country USA
Year of Source info 1926
Additional information Residence in Finland: Jääskä
Source Ilmonen, S.: The History of Finnish Americans 1926, page 182

Denise
16-12-07, 18:42
Hi,
It appears that this is your Viktor and he shortened his surname to Maki.

Denise

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Victor Maki
Age in 1910: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Home in 1910: Bovey, Itasca, Minnesota
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1906
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Isaac Maotha 30
Ida Wikstrom 22
Anna Mottonen 18
Alma Leinonen 19
Victor Maki 31
Axel Johnson 23
Charley Heikkinen 20
John Basanen 20
John Heikkinen 21
Henry Aho 33
Ivar Kauppi 34
John Heikkinen 38
Walter Tahti 23
Onni Johnson 22
Soloman Maki 32
John Hietala 35
John Matson 39
John Basonen 31
Abel Aalto 25
Peter Kuskinen 29
Paul Ranta 24
John Jarvi 19
Victor Kauppila 22
William Matson 23
John Kantola 20
August Karvosenoja 40
Andrew Arola 31
Matti Matula 23
Samuel Susi 40
John Lehtonen 46




Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Bovey, Itasca, Minnesota; Roll: T624_707; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 69; Image: 1023.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census

Denise
16-12-07, 18:49
Please ignore that 1910 Census... it's wrong!!! I got mixed up on dates. :( Let me keep checking.

Denise

Denise
16-12-07, 18:55
This appears to be your Viktor Mäkeläinen; Mäki.

Denise

1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Victor Maki
Age in 1910: 23
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Finland
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Finland
Mother's Birth Place: Finland
Home in 1910: Nashwauk, Itasca, Minnesota
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1907
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
William Kumpula 40
Fanny Kumpula 34
Vina F Kumpula 4
Waino Kumpula 2
Hilja Aho 10
Gust Tamminen 27
Helmi Tamminen 20
Abram Hamalain 42
Dan Kaski 28
John Deppe 22
John Aho 32
John Holman 38
Oscar Sanfor 27
Hunning Gumila 19
Juho Karppinen 22
Ascar Laukila 25
Selina Liemstain 34
Victor Maki 23
Antor Lumstaim 29
John Wiljanen 23




Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Nashwauk, Itasca, Minnesota; Roll: T624_707; Page: 23B; Enumeration District: 74; Image: 1157.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. 1910 United States Federal Census

Denise
16-12-07, 19:03
Hi,
Here is Viktor's WW1 Draft Registration.

Denise

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Victor Maki
City: Not Stated
County: Itasca
State: Minnesota
Birthplace: Finland
Birth Date: Oct 1886
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1675511
DraftBoard: 0
Age:

Occupation:

Nearest Relative:

Height/Build:

Color of Eyes/Hair:

Signature: View Image



Source Citation: Registration Location: Itasca County, Minnesota; Roll: 1675511; Draft Board: 0.


Source Information:
Ancestry.com. World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

karvajalka
17-12-07, 13:50
hello Denise
thank you for your help! You obtain much more information in few minutes than me in month!
Your #4, #5, #6 are matching very well together, but it seems to me, that they do not match with #9 and #10. Even we could accept the shorted new name, we are not able to find any clear information about place of birth in #9 and #10.
I tried to find a village or farm named Vaara, Vaaria... or similar like we can read in WW1 registration card item 5 you sent, I don't find anything.
In #6 This Victor Mäkeläinen is born in Jääske put a doubt on #9 and #10 regarding the date (1926) but the birth date is missing. I will check if there is another Viktor or Wihtori Mäkeläinen born in Jääski between 1880 and 1900.
Thank's a lot Denise
Best regards, Paljon kiitoksia
Karvajalka

Denise
17-12-07, 17:27
Hi Karvajalka,
Looking again at the WW1 Draft Registration, it appears that the place he was born is Vaasa. Now that you brought that to my attention, I also have questions whether this is the correct person. I was going mainly by the October 1886 date of birth which made me feel I had the correct one. I'm going to keep searching as maybe I'm mistaken that he shortened his name to Mäki, but I find it hard to believe that I am finding very few Mäkeläinen's on Ancestry.com, thus my reasoning that the surname was changed. Maybe someone with the book by Ilmonen "The History of Finnish Americans 1926" (pg. 182) could look this up for us and see if there is further information on him. This also puzzles me that in the book it was Mäkeläinen when I'm not finding him listed in Minnesota by that name. I'm also curious where Wilhelm ended up as I'm not finding anything on him.
Did other Mäkeläinen family members come to the U.S.? On the Institute of Migration there are many Mäkeläinen's for passports and passenger records, and also many on the farm name section. Would you like me to post those for you? Maybe there would be clues to other family members.

Regards,
Denise

Karen Norwillo
17-12-07, 17:31
The place on the WWI Draft Registration says Vaasa. If you click on the image again after opening it, it will magnify. I found many people said they were from Vaasa meaning Vaasa län and not particularly the town. Karen

karvajalka
17-12-07, 21:13
Hi Karen
You are right, and denise agree with you. No doubt anymore, Vaasa is opposite to Karelia. Kiitos paljon
Regards
Karvajalka

Hi Denise
for sure all informations you can guet about Mäkeläinen are welcome because, as you supposed, (see #1) apart Karl the eldest child, it is said in the family that all of the other brothers emigrated to USA. I did not speak about them because I didn't find any registration or trace.
If you find many Mäkeläinen in passport registration and rare of them are those you can find in administration data base, I understand your proposal to search "adapted names"; I hope it is not too complicated for you.
Paljon kiitoksia Denise,
Regards
Karvajalka

christer
17-12-07, 21:50
Bonjour Karvajalka

Just a little note: Johan Petter Mäkeläinen was born in Halivaara, Juuka.
Well, Halivaara is the place where Denise,s greatgreatgrandpa Anders Tanskanen was born too, dont know if you have any connections but close too anyway.
Christer

Denise
18-12-07, 04:56
Hi,
First of all, Christer, you are too smart for your own good!!! :p
And, Karvajalka, here is your record from Hiski! :D


Juuka - christened

Child's first name: JOH PET => Johan, Johanna, Pehr, Johau, Johannes11, Johon
Born Christened Village Farm Father Mother Child

19.5.1838 22.7.1838 Halivaara inh: Henric Mäkeläin Anna Ahoin 38 Johan Petter

Merry Christmas!
Denise

Denise
18-12-07, 05:02
Hi,
Here are all the Mäkeläinen's that were dwellers in Oulu and Vaasa area from the Institute of Migration.

Denise

Search results (Farm names)
*


Dweller's name Parish name Village name Farm name/Status Time period
Mäkeläinen Tammela Mustiala Afdelningens elever, pg 753 1869-1878
Mäkeläinen Ruovesi Ruhala Ala-Ruhala No 2 1863-1869
Mäkeläinen Ruovesi Visuvesi Alastalo No 4 1863-1869
Mäkeläinen Paltamo Paltomo Drengar pg 277 1858-1867
Mäkeläinen Kuhmoniemi Lentua Heikkilä No 11 1866-1876
Mäkeläinen Loppi Loppi Heikkilä No 9 1866-1874
Mäkeläinen Puolanka Lylykylä Heinävaara No 7 1858-1867
Mäkeläinen Kuhmoniemi Lentua Henttula No 24 1866-1876
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Hulkkola No 22 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Hulkkola No 9 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Puolanka Väyrylä Hyttilä No 1 1858-1867
Mäkeläinen Kajaani Rural Jormua Inhyses, pg 53 1866-1876
Mäkeläinen Kajaani Rural Jormua Inhyses, pg 53 1866-1876
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Jaakola No 32 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Järvelä No 1 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Ruovesi Visuvesi Kangaspusu No 2 1863-1869
Mäkeläinen Padasjoki Kasiniemi Kasiniemi, pg 135 1866-1875
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Kytömäki Kellovaara No 8 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Kytömäki Kellovaara No 8 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Puolanka Väyrylä Kempala No 17 1858-1867
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Kytömäki Keränen No 3 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Puolanka Lylykylä Kinnula No 8 1858-1867
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Kirvesvaara No 38 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Kytömäki Koivula No 16 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Ruovesi Elämäntaipale Koivula No 3 1863-1869
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Kytömäki Komula No 16 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Ristijärvi Ristijärvi Kukkarovaara No 41 1866-1871
Mäkeläinen Iisalmi Rural Rutakko Kumpula No 14 1881-1890
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Kytömäki Laataja No 9 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Ylistaro Lahti Lahti No 4 1853-18
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Kytömäki Lauttaja No 9 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Iisalmi Rural Iisalmi Rural Loisia, M, pg 183 1881-1890
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Kianta Luukkola No 6 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Materola No 10 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Materola No 6 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Murhila No 39 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Ylistaro Mettälä Myllykoski No 5 1853-1859
Mäkeläinen Kuhmoniemi Korpisalmi Nojola No 24 1866-1876
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Hyrynsalmi Palkollisia, pg 192 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Jyväskylä City Jyväskylä City Quarteret, Page 138 1854-1871
Mäkeläinen Jyväskylä City Jyväskylä City Quarteret, Page 206 1854-1871
Mäkeläinen Jyväskylä City Jyväskylä City Quarteret, Page 68 1854-1871
Mäkeläinen Janakkala Konttila Rajala, pg 568 1862-1868
Mäkeläinen Janakkala Turenki Rautoja, pg 456 1862-1868
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Kianta Siikaniemi No 45 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Tammela Forssa Spineriet, pg 1376 1869-1878
Mäkeläinen Muhos Muhos Sukunimet / Surnames pg 160 1881-1891
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Tenhula No 15 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Ruovesi Pohjaslahti Tervanen No 4 1863-1869
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Suolijärvi Torpare pg 238 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Suolijärvi Torpare pg 247 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Suolijärvi Torpare pg 248 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Torpare, pg 178 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Torpare, pg 192 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Puolanka Oterma Torpare, pg 241 1858-1867
Mäkeläinen Kuhmoniemi Vieksi Torpare, pg 506 1866-1876
Mäkeläinen Kuhmoniemi Katerma Torpare, pg 51 1866-1876
Mäkeläinen Ristijärvi Ristijärvi Torpparit, pg 122 1866-1871
Mäkeläinen Hyrynsalmi Luojärvi Torpparit, pg 128 1865-1875
Mäkeläinen Ristijärvi Ristijärvi Torpparit, pg 151 1866-1871
Mäkeläinen Puolanka Lylykylä Turpeila No 9 1858-1867
Mäkeläinen Suomussalmi Vuokki Tuuliala No 23 1843-1850
Mäkeläinen Kuhmoinen Anttula Uotila-Vasikkasalo, pg 16 1868-1875
Mäkeläinen Ruovesi Pitkälä Yli-Pitkälä No 1 1863-1869

Denise
18-12-07, 05:07
Hello,
Here are all the Mäkeläinen passports. If there are specific ones that are of interest, let me know, and I will post the passport record for you.

Denise


Search results (Passport records)

Last name First names Passport date Date of birth Home parish Destination
Mäkeläinen Albin 26.07.1912 . .1868 Sievi Ulkomaat
Mäkeläinen Albin 24.09.1913 . .9999 Sievi Ulkomaat
Mäkeläinen Anna Maria 09.09.1908 28.07.1883 Puolanka Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Briita Kustaava 23.11.1912 01.04.1891 Oulujoki Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Emilia 06.12.1899 . .9999 Suomussalmi Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Heikki 31.03.1911 24.01.1888 Puolanka Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Helmi 26.07.1912 09.04.1879 Sievi Ulkomaat
Mäkeläinen Hilma Kustaava 15.10.1904 . .9999 Oulu Venäjä
Mäkeläinen Jaakko Kallenp. . .1900 . .1874 Puolanka Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Jaakko Kallenp. 20.05.1905 15.08.1874 Puolanka Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Johan 11.06.1900 . .1867 Jyväskylä Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Johan Herman 19.01.1909 . .1882 Viipurin pit. Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Kaisa Maria 04.09.1909 02.10.1887 Puolanka Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Karl .01.1902 . .1874 Saarijärvi Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Lauri 27.08.1907 05.11.1880 Puolanka Amerikka

Mäkeläinen Nikolai 09.10.1909 . .1884 Johannes Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Pekka 09.07.1919 . .1886 Puolanka Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Pekka 26.06.1907 02.05.1886 Puolanka Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Reinhold Aukustinp. 29.06.1899 01.07.1874 Suomussalmi Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Riita Eliina 09.09.1908 26.07.1906 Puolanka Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Ruusa 21.08.1913 . .1893 Kuopion kaup. Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Sylvi Inkeri 26.07.1912 02.08.1905 Sievi Ulkomaat
Mäkeläinen Vihtori 21.01.1907 . .1886 Jääski Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Vilhelm 21.01.1907 . .1879 Jääski Amerikka
Mäkeläinen Wille 26.07.1911 . .1886 Laukaa Ulkomaa

Denise
18-12-07, 05:10
And passenger records...

Search results (Passenger records)

Last name First names Place of destination State Country Date
Mäkeläinen Adam Fitchburg MA USA 01.06.1910
Mäkeläinen Adolf San Francisco CA USA 01.06.1910
Mäkeläinen Alina New York NY USA 17.12.1913
Mäkeläinen Anna San Francisco CA USA 12.09.1908
Mäkeläinen Anna Fitchburg MA USA 23.06.1909
Mäkeläinen Anna New York NY USA 17.12.1913
Mäkeläinen Anna Maria Boston MA USA 24.12.1913
Mäkeläinen Elsa Melbourne VIC AUS 99.99.9999
Mäkeläinen Esko Halifax NS CDN 19.01.1927
Mäkeläinen Gustava Astoria OR USA 27.11.1912
Mäkeläinen Heikki Houghton MI USA 27.09.1911
Mäkeläinen Hilma Duluth MN USA 20.10.1923
Mäkeläinen Johan New York NY USA 23.06.1900
Mäkeläinen Johan New York NY USA 27.01.1909
Mäkeläinen Josef Fitchburg MA USA 23.06.1909
Mäkeläinen Josef Gardner MA USA 13.07.1910
Mäkeläinen Juho New York NY USA 08.03.1902
Mäkeläinen Juoseppi New York NY USA 17.12.1913
Mäkeläinen Karl New York NY USA 11.01.1902
Mäkeläinen Lauri San Francisco CA USA 31.08.1907
Mäkeläinen Lyyli Fitchburg MA USA 23.06.1909
Mäkeläinen Matti Fitchburg MA USA 27.05.1903
Mäkeläinen Matti Floodwood MN USA 21.08.1907
Mäkeläinen Nikolai New York NY USA 16.10.1909
Mäkeläinen Pekka Calumet MI USA 29.06.1907
Mäkeläinen Raija Melbourne VIC AUS 99.99.9999
Mäkeläinen Riita San Francisco CA USA 12.09.1908
Mäkeläinen Ruusa New York NY USA 30.08.1913
Mäkeläinen Sofia Fitchburg MA USA 01.06.1910
Mäkeläinen Sofia Fitchburg MA USA 01.06.1910
Mäkeläinen Stepan Fitchburg MA USA 01.06.1910
Mäkeläinen Tauno New York NY USA 17.12.1913
Mäkeläinen Toivo Melbourne VIC AUS 99.99.9999
Mäkeläinen Toivo Fitchburg MA USA 01.06.1910
Mäkeläinen Väinö Boston MA USA 24.12.1913
Mäkeläinen Vihtori Chicago IL USA 23.01.1907
Mäkeläinen Vilhelm Chicago IL USA 23.01.1907
Mäkeläinen Wilhelmina New York NY USA 19.03.1921

Denise
18-12-07, 05:14
There was one Mäkeläinen in the reference records on the Institute of Migration.

Detailed information (Reference records)

Last name: Mäkeläinen
First names: Osmo Matti Juhani
Other name: *
Date of birth: 14.10.1934
Place of birth: Koivisto
State of birth: VII
Country of birth: SF
Date of death: 28.12.1991
Place of death: Thunder Bay
State of death: ON
Country of death: CDN

References: - Canadan Uutiset 15.01.1992: 13 (Kuolinilmoitus).
Remarks: Pso: Seija. Lapset: Merja Laine, Timo.

Denise
18-12-07, 05:17
And one Mäkeläinen in the Sheriff's Records section.

Detailed Sheriff's records information
Last name Mäkeläinen
First names Sirkka Anneli
Occupation -
Home parish / residence -
Born in -
Date of passport/migration -
Place of destination -
Additional information -
Source Passport archive of Vaasa province. Box 104. Document: Photo only

Denise
18-12-07, 05:20
Here is one Australian Finn! ;)


Detailed information (Australian Finns)

Last name Mäkeläinen (Mäkelä)
First names Arthur Elis
Naturalization 1935/10832
Date of birth 1903
Birth place Helsinki
Birth province Uusimaa
Date of arrival to Australia 1922
Marital status Naimisissa, 1 M (A) A
Wife/husband Kate Bertha (A)
Address in Australia Sarina near Mackay, Q'land
Occupation in Australia Labourer
English proficiency R+, W+, S+
Travel route / ship From Finland to Newcastle
Places of residence in Australia Northern Rivers 2 years, Tully 2 years, Mackay 8 years.
Consulate's register # -
Consulate's register number -
Occupation -
Date of Passport -
Additional passport information -
SHO identification # -
Date of departure from Finland -
Age -
Route / price -
Additional ticket information -
Consulate's archive information -
Information from Swedish archives -
Additional information -

Denise
18-12-07, 05:37
Found this on Hiski too...


Kaavi
Buried - event number: 13393
Died / Buried 13.11.1858 21.11.1858
Village / Farm Wehkalaks n: 1
Deceased B:de son Johan Petter Mäkeläinen
Cause of death / Age Feber - years 6 months - weeks - days
Own comment
Original comment
Links

Denise
18-12-07, 06:05
Hi,
LDS (Latter Day Saints) has info. about Mäkeläinen (Mäkeläin) names also.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/default.asp

Denise

karvajalka
19-12-07, 13:18
Bonjour Christer!
Johan Petter Mäkeläin(en) Is my wife's great grand father was living in Halivaara parish Juuka north Karelia in years 1838 to ... his father, Henric Mäkeläinen born 28.7.1809 was also living in this village, And may be his grand father too ( Elias Mäkeläin(en))born may be around 1780 (?).So it meens thereis a big probability that both families have had somme connection or relationship in this village!
Merci pour cette information!
Regards

Hi Denise
I owe to you the ability I have today to speak about these things, Thank's again.
Unfortunately, I don't find any membre of my wife's family in the lists you sent to me, and the link to Church of... don't give any answer.
In matter of families relationship I will try to get some information because I think some membres of the family are still living in north Karelia and Kuopio area!
Best regards and merry Christmas and happy new year!
Karvajalka

Denise
19-12-07, 18:03
Hi Karvajalka,
While browsing through Hiski I've found that Johan Petter's mother, Anna Ahoin's whole family, parents, siblings, etc. is pretty well documented in Halivaara, Juuka parish.

Juuka - christened
Born Christened Village Farm Father Mother Child
19.5.1838 22.7.1838 Halivaara inh: Henric Mäkeläin :) Anna Ahoin 38 :) Johan Petter

Just thought I'd mention that...

Merry Christmas,
Denise