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kivinen1
26-04-08, 00:16
Hello,

I'm trying to see if anyone has information on persons that would be my great great grandparents and their ancestors. The following information is the only information that I have. At one time the (Hill) family from the Elias listed below was Washington state's largest family, according to articles in The Columbian newspaper - Vancouver, WA.

Surname in Finland was ILMARINEN, name used in the USA is HILL.

My maternal great grandfather is:

Elias Hermansson Ilmarinen- HILL: born on 15 Feb 1864 in Jurva, Finland; married 28 May 1890, Apostolic Lutheran Church, Hockinson, Washington; died on 6 Jan 1942 in Hockinson, Washington

his wife (my great grandmother) is:
Hilda JOHNSON: born on 17 May 1873 in Calumet, Michigan; died on 25 Jun 1960 in Hockinson, Washington

Father of Elias is:
Herman ILMARINEN: Most likely was in Jurva, some family memories say possibly with a Teuva connection.:)

kivinen1
13-05-08, 06:15
Ok,

Time to update this. Apparently not a soul knows of this family.

Below are the my grandfather and his siblings, maybe this could jog a memory.:)

Hockinson is also Brush Prairie, Washington - those listed below are born in Hockinson, WA

By the time these children were born, the family name was firmly HILL, unfortunately, there are many Hill's in the area... many were Mäki's in Finland, and changed to Hill, still others were Berg, and did the same.

Emelia born 10 Apr 1891
Hilda Josephine 28 May 1892
Victor Mattias 15 Oct 1893
August Eli 11 Aug 1895 (my grandfather)
Richard 30 Jun 1897
Anna Theresa 2 Aug 1899
Herman Carl 6 Oct 1900
Rudolph 18 Dec 1902
Oscar 17 Mar 1904
Ida Johanna 20 Jun 1906
Erika Florence aka Riikka 4 Nov 1907
Jacob Ernest 21 Nov 1909
Selina Susanna 26 Nov 1911
Arnet Nestor 10 Apr 1913
Hulda Vivian 15 Apr 1917

The parents of these above were:
Elias Hermansson ILMARINEN- HILL: born on 15 Feb 1864 in Jurva, Finland; married 28 May 1890, Apostolic Lutheran Church, Hockinson, Washington; died on 6 Jan 1942 in Hockinson, Washington

Hilda JOHNSON: born on 17 May 1873 in Calumet, Michigan; died on 25 Jun 1960 in Hockinson, Washington

Any new leads will be greatly appreciated.

Thank you -:)

Karen Norwillo
13-05-08, 22:48
Here's the family in 1900-1910-1920. Will send other info next post. Karen

Karen Norwillo
13-05-08, 22:50
Here's 1930 and some WWI Draft Reg. cards.

kivinen1
13-05-08, 23:13
Here's 1930 and some WWI Draft Reg. cards.

Karen,

Thanks a bundle, now if I could get somewhere in Finland, that will be pudding. I only have one small handwritten copy of the Jurva Diocese that states a name and date, and a fathers name (the Ilmarinen name).

I will have to see if I can get to the church records there some day. There doesn't seem to be that much on line. Perhaps fires or something.

Karen Norwillo
13-05-08, 23:22
Herman C Hill 29 Oct 1990 Vancouver, Clark, WA Cert 029196 WA Death Index
Rudolph Hill born 18 Dec 1902, died 15 Sep 1994 Vancouver, Clark, WA
Jacob Ernest Hill born 21 Nov 1909 WA, died 3 May 1994 Los Angeles, CA.

Karen Norwillo
13-05-08, 23:54
Here's the 1880 Mantalslängd for Jurva (Järvenpää) Ilmarinen farm. Unfortunately, that's as far as the records go.

Karen Norwillo
14-05-08, 19:09
The WA Birth Index has Arnod Hill born 10 Apr 1915, not 1913, to Elias Hill and Johnson in Clark county. Note difference in first name also.

kivinen1
14-05-08, 20:35
The WA Birth Index has Arnod Hill born 10 Apr 1915, not 1913, to Elias Hill and Johnson in Clark county. Note difference in first name also.

Hi Karen,

Thanks for all of these. I think the WA birth index is off. I have two different written sources here that are contemporary to his birth, and it is certainly 1913. They have his name off as well.:confused: