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kivinen1
28-07-08, 01:54
Finland information sought most. North American information will be a plus.

The dates are passed down in the family, they may not be exact.

A friend has been trying to paste together the origins of his Great-great grandfather, Manasse Torttila.

Manasse (maybe also Magnus?) was born on March 31, 1868 in the town of Hausjärvi (near Riihimäki). When he was of age, Manasee Torttila left home to go to work. Home was Hausjärvi at the railway junction heading east from Riihimäki. A railroad being constructed nearby provided work for him and his cousins. When work on the railroad was complete, they began to think about the west where things were booming, where railroads and highways were being built. Surely there would be plenty of opportunity for young men to find work. All of the "usual" reasons for leaving.

The Torttila boys and their cousins soon gave way to ''the fever'' to go to America. Manasee arrived in the Canadian Soo (Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario) in 1892, six years after his brothers. Their cousins first went to Ohio, but later moved to the Soo and worked on the Algoma Central Railway which was completed in 1914.

Manasse met his wife Hilma at a logging camp. They lived in Sault Ste. Marie Ontario Canada but were married by a pastor from the American side named Jacob Hoikka. (I don't know if this was the same pastor that once preached in Astoria, Oregon.)

Manasse and Hilma had eight children. Lydia, born in 1902 died at age 5, Swanti, Eli (my friends great grandmother), Bill, Aina, Ida, Ed and Art. They all lived long and productive lives. The family was not religious but all the children were baptized.

It was in 1911 that Manasse and Hilma legally changed their last name from Torttila to Mäki.

Apparently Manasse died on Dec 9 1940 of a heart attack. He was walking from Eli's (my great grandmother) place to his other daughter Ida's house.

The only mention of I can find of any combination of the above, is the use of the same surname / farmname of Torttila along with Turhauta in the area of Renko, Finland.

I've also seen references to a Mäkinen family in the area. I'm not sure if that is a clue to the name change or not.

Any help out there?:o

Sami Lehtonen
04-08-08, 08:56
Hi,

Manasse Torttila is a distant relative of mine. Torttila was a farm in Turkhauta village in Hausjärvi. Actually, Manasse Torttila is a descendant of Sigfrid Henriksson Markkula (a family from Markkula farm in Oinaala, Renko). From that line, the ancestors are known all the way to 16th century.

Our family association would like to hear any info you may have about Manasse and his family in Kanada. You can send a message privately to me and I can send you info about Manasse's ancestors I have.

kivinen1
06-08-08, 16:44
Hi,

Manasse Torttila is a distant relative of mine. Torttila was a farm in Turkhauta village in Hausjärvi. Actually, Manasse Torttila is a descendant of Sigfrid Henriksson Markkula (a family from Markkula farm in Oinaala, Renko). From that line, the ancestors are known all the way to 16th century.

Our family association would like to hear any info you may have about Manasse and his family in Kanada. You can send a message privately to me and I can send you info about Manasse's ancestors I have.

Sami,

Hello - I sent you a message like you said, but I've not heard back.

Maybe this message will get to you, I included my e-mail address in the message. - Thank you - Ilmari

Sami Lehtonen
08-08-08, 15:57
Sami,

Hello - I sent you a message like you said, but I've not heard back.

Maybe this message will get to you, I included my e-mail address in the message. - Thank you - Ilmari

Message received and replied. Any other interested in Manasse Torttila can of course reply to this chain.

KristiinaMattil
16-08-10, 13:56
Hello!
Manasse Torttila was my grand-grand father's brother. His father was Jooseppi Torttila born on on 1829 in Hausjärvi. His mother was Hedvig Domander born in Hausjärvi church village on 15.1.1835 They were joint in marriage on 21.10.1856. They had 12 children, five of them died very early in 1 to 3 years age. My grand-grand father, Johan Konstantin Torttila(born 20.6.1863) was the fifth of them and Manasse eighth. Jooseppi Torttila died already on 11.5.1884.

Manasse was the only brother who moved abroad. I have about 10 Manasse's letters from America and Canada, which he wrote to his older brother Johan Konstantin. First letters are from Michigan (1893) and last letters from Ontario. In these letters he don't mention any relatives there, so I think there was no cousins eather but I'm not sure about that. In the time of those letters three brothers took care of that farm.

If you contact me through this Forum, can take copies of those letters or try to translate them.

Best regards,
Kristiina Mattila

kivinen1
16-08-10, 20:22
Kristiina,

I'll send you a message through this forum and give you my e-mail address.

Hopefully you can see how to use the message system.

Thank you,

Ilmari :D

JAXLOPAX
19-08-10, 22:49
Hello!
Manasse Torttila was my grand-grand father's brother. His father was Jooseppi Torttila born on on 1829 in Hausjärvi. His mother was Hedvig Domander born in Hausjärvi church village on 15.1.1835 They were joint in marriage on 21.10.1856. They had 12 children, five of them died very early in 1 to 3 years age. My grand-grand father, Johan Konstantin Torttila(born 20.6.1863) was the fifth of them and Manasse eighth. Jooseppi Torttila died already on 11.5.1884.

Manasse was the only brother who moved abroad. I have about 10 Manasse's letters from America and Canada, which he wrote to his older brother Johan Konstantin. First letters are from Michigan (1893) and last letters from Ontario. In these letters he don't mention any relatives there, so I think there was no cousins eather but I'm not sure about that. In the time of those letters three brothers took care of that farm.

If you contact me through this Forum, can take copies of those letters or try to translate them.

Best regards,
Kristiina Mattila

Hi,

I am the great great grandson of Manasse Torttila here in Canada. You would be my distant cousin then. I have family information on this side of the family if you would care to compare notes. Please let me know.


Best,
Jackson