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rachelsearls
22-03-09, 07:25
I am brand new to doing genealogy. This is what I do know. My gg grandfather was born in Kalajoki on april 2 1895 His name is Hjalmer Kumpula. I can not find any passenger record of him coming over to America. His parents I think are Victor Kumpula and Anna Margaret Kuuko. I have no other info on them except that they were born in Finalnd, I think around the 1850's. Hjalmer's wife was Selma Wiiki who was born in America. Selma's parents were John Wiiki born Sept 10 1875 in Finalnd. He came to America in 1892 on the Hermann and died March 21, 1969 in Marquette MI. On the records it said he came from Finnland, Finland. I dont think that is right. Selma Nopola(could be Napola) was wife to John. She was born May 25, 1880 in Lapua and died Nov 4, 1957. Kustaa Albanus Hattula in my other gg grandfather. He was born Oct 4, 1874 in Lehtimaki and died June 24, 1969 in Trout Creek MI. He came to America in 1901 and his wife Hilma followed in 1902. Hilma was born in 1875 in Finland and died in 1958 in MI. Hilma's maiden name could have possibly been Vessonen but I'm not sure. I know this is a lot of info but I could really use some help and suggestions. I don't know anything about Finland so I am looking at maps and trying to learn a few basic things. Thank you for anyones help.

diogenes99
22-03-09, 11:06
Here is how to research some of these ancestors. Go to http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski?en and then find the parish. Enter in some minimal information, such as partial spellings and wide date ranges until you find someone who matches your target.

Example: Kustaa Albanus Hattula born Oct 4, 1874 in Lehtimaki. The results say his father was a farm renter, Tp. Kalle Herm. Tuomanp and his mother was Sanna Seraf. Erkintr. age 27.

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Lehtimäki - christened

* Years 1873 - 1875
* Child's first name: KUSTAA => Gustaf, Gustava, Kustaavi

Born Christened Village Farm Father Mother Child
*21.1.1873 2.2.1873 Kr.tp. Hiipakka Kr.Tp. Kalle Dav:p. Leena Kustaant. 25-30 Kaarle Kustavi
*6.2.1873 16.2.1873 Keski-Suni Lautam: K. G. Sunell Anna 40-45 Carl Gust:
*3.2.1873 16.2.1873 Saukkokangas P. Amanda Karol. Adolftr. Koivula 20-25 Gustaf (+ 21.6.)
*8.3.1873 9.3.1873 Hernesm. R. Matti Juh:p. Hautaaho Susan: Juhantr 30-35 Kaarle Kustavi (+ 9.11)
*24.4.1873 14.5.1873 Fagerkulla Kappal: Gust.v. Essen Maria Lovisa Mandellöf 25-30 Ernst Gust: Immanuel
*22.5.1873 1.6.1873 Leikkari Tal.is. Kust: Serafia 25-30 Joh. Gust:
*22.9.1873 5.10.1873 Rantala Tal. Isak. Antinp. Maja Erk:tr. 35-40 Hilda Gustava
*20.11.1873 20.11.1873 Hernesmaa Talp. Matti Antinp. Maja Erk:tr. 35-40 Hilda Gustava
*28.11.1873 30.11.1873 Suni Its. Herm. Gabriel.p. Edla Gust. Antint. 15-20 Karl Gustaf
*31.5.1874 3.6.1874 Kesäniemi It. Heik: Mat.p. Jylhä Hanna Erk.tr. 33. Juha Kustavi
*11.7.1874 19.7.1874 Hintsa It: Karl Juhonp. Amanda Abr:t. 28. Karl Gust.
*20.8.1874 23.8.1874 Hernesm. Tal.is. Erkki Heikin:p. Tilda Taav:tr 20. Kaarle Kustavi
*4.10.1874 11.10.1874 Hattula Tp. Kalle Herm. Tuomanp. Sanna Seraf. Erkintr. 27. Gustaf Albanus
*26.12.1874 27.12.1874 Mattinen It. Gust: Gustp. Mäkelä Maija Joh:tr 33. Karl Gust:
*11.1.1875 11.1.1875 Leskinen Tp. Kaarle Gust: Gustanp. Hautaho Maria W:mina 30. Kaarle Gust:
*31.1.1875 4.2.1875 Rantala Tal. Joh: Gust: Kaisanp. Liisa 33. Maria Gustava
*9.2.1875 14.2.1875 Jokiaho Tal. Heikki Heik:p. Susanna Dav:tr 30. Karl Gust:
*13.3.1875 27.3.1875 Pöytäkang: Kr.tp. Joh: Gust: Johs. Lovisa 34. Joh. Gustaf
*1.4.1875 4.4.1875 Hakola Tal. Matti Gust:p. Maria Lovisa 26. Joh: Gustaf
*19.4.1875 24.4.1875 Suonsalo Tp. Alex: Joh.p. Perälä Lisa Jakob:tr 41. Joh: Gustaf
*22.4.1875 25.4.1875 Hintsa Tp. Heik: Juhp. Isoaho Kaisa Miina 39. Karl Gust:
*25.6.1875 27.6.1875 Suokko Tal. Joh: Abr: Joh.p. Maria Thil: Matint. 29. Joh: Gustaf
*5.7.1875 11.7.1875 Kaltiala Tal. Johan: Flinkman Rosina 29. Gustava
*1.10.1875 3.10.1875 Leskinen Tp. Heik: Jöranp. Katajasaari Maija Simonint. 28. Gustaf Valentin

A total of 24 events found.

rachelsearls
23-03-09, 00:09
I have been to that website. I think I was trying to put in to much info. I think I even saw the information that you provided for me. You rock !

diogenes99
23-03-09, 00:13
I have been to that website. I think I was trying to put in to much info. I think I even saw the information that you provided for me. You rock !

Keep in mind that the names you have may not match those they used in Finland. I don't think there is a surname Kuuko -- there is a farm name Kucko. Farmnames were used often as surnames, so they changed some times during the person's life. Also, first names, such as Victor, were probably something else in Finland.

budjohnson
27-03-09, 20:36
I am brand new to doing genealogy. This is what I do know. My gg grandfather was born in Kalajoki on april 2 1895 His name is Hjalmer Kumpula. I can not find any passenger record of him coming over to America. His parents I think are Victor Kumpula and Anna Margaret Kuuko. I have no other info on them except that they were born in Finalnd, I think around the 1850's. Hjalmer's wife was Selma Wiiki who was born in America. Selma's parents were John Wiiki born Sept 10 1875 in Finalnd. He came to America in 1892 on the Hermann and died March 21, 1969 in Marquette MI. On the records it said he came from Finnland, Finland. I dont think that is right. Selma Nopola(could be Napola) was wife to John. She was born May 25, 1880 in Lapua and died Nov 4, 1957. Kustaa Albanus Hattula in my other gg grandfather. He was born Oct 4, 1874 in Lehtimaki and died June 24, 1969 in Trout Creek MI. He came to America in 1901 and his wife Hilma followed in 1902. Hilma was born in 1875 in Finland and died in 1958 in MI. Hilma's maiden name could have possibly been Vessonen but I'm not sure. I know this is a lot of info but I could really use some help and suggestions. I don't know anything about Finland so I am looking at maps and trying to learn a few basic things. Thank you for anyones help.

In the marriage records for three of the Hattula children they list their mother as Hilma Besonen or Bessonen.

rachelsearls
27-03-09, 23:23
My mom had gotten the last name from her aunt in MI. The aunt has a very thick accent and when I told my mom I couldnt find anything under Vessonen she thought it could have possibly been Bessonen but we didnt know. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it.:)

budjohnson
28-03-09, 01:29
Daughter John Wiikre and Selma Napola married on 25 April 1918 married to Hjalmer G. Cumpules. It has her name as Selma Josephine Wiikre, 18 years old and born in Austria. Hjalmer's parents were Victor Cumpules and Anna Hiiko, and it has his birthplace as Finland. He is listed as 22 years old. The marriage takes place in Ewen, Ontonagon, Michigan.

Kerstin
28-03-09, 18:23
Hello!

There is a Yalmer Kumpula living in Calumet Houghton Michigan in the cencus of 1930
yalmer Kumpula 35 Born abt 1895 in Finland Immigrated in 1899 Working as a miner in a coppermine.
Selma Kumpula born abt 1901 in Michigan
Leroy Kumpula 9
Wesley Kumpula 7
Ruth Kumpula 2
John Kumpula
Allthe children are born in Michigan

And there is a World War 1 draft card for Hjalmar Kumbula born 2 april 1895 in Kalajoki Finland He is living in Painesville Michigan and he is working as a farmlaborer. He is single.
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Kerstin
28-03-09, 18:40
There is a Selma J Wicki living in Corvington Baraga Michigan in 1910.
John Wicki 34
Selma wicki 29
Selma J Wicki 9
Helma M Wicki 8
John E wicki 7
Urho J Wicki 5
Elisabeth Wicki 2
Emma S Wicki born abt 1909

rachelsearls
30-03-09, 01:58
Thank you. These 2 names are the same person. I really appreciate your help. Kumpula and Kumbula.

rachelsearls
30-03-09, 07:35
What do all these different things mean? I dont know if they are some sort of title or what. EX- hust., Torp., Tp., pig,. I dont mean to be so ignorant but I am. Its a little embarrassing.:o

kivinen1
30-03-09, 09:47
What do all these different things mean? I dont know if they are some sort of title or what. EX- hust., Torp., Tp., pig,. I dont mean to be so ignorant but I am. Its a little embarrassing.:o

hust. = Wife
Torp. = crofter / peasant / sort of like a serf.
Tp. = [I don't know for sure] the son of a crofter, or just the same as Torp.
pig. = spinster / single "girl".


Hustru
Torpare
Piga

You can look here: http://www.genline.com/resources/dictionary_abbreviations.php?page=a

rachelsearls
31-03-09, 08:27
That is a very helpful website.:)

kivinen1
31-03-09, 08:32
That is a very helpful website.:)

Det är ingenting.:rolleyes: [it is nothing]

Denise
31-03-09, 13:56
Hi,
Found these in the Institute of Migration. :)
Best Regards,
Denise


Detailed passport information
Last Name Kumpulainen
First names Hjalmar
Other names *
Date of birth . .1895
Marital status *
Religion *
Occupation Itsellisen pka
Home parish Kalajoki
Province OU
Passport date 22.04.1899
Passport number 419
Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by OU
Remarks Ph äiti Anna Greeta s. 1895.
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Detailed passenger information
Last Name Kumpulainen
First names Hjalmar
Age or age group 19
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Erie
State of destination PA
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 237
Ship from Finland Polaris
Date of departure from Finland 13.04.1901
Ship from England *
Date of departure from England 99.99.9999
Ocean Line Cunard Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 16/88
Remarks *

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Detailed passport information




Last name Kumpulainen
First names Anna Greeta Hermannint.
Other names *
Date of birth . .1874
Marital status 2
Religion *
Occupation Itsellisen vmo
Home parish Kalajoki
Province OU
Passport date 22.04.1899
Passport number 419
Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by OU
Remarks Sp poika Hjalmar s. 1895. Pso Viktori Antinp. Kumpulainen.

Denise
31-03-09, 14:43
Hi,
Found this also on the Institute of Migration. It appears that their home parish was Evijärvi.

Denise :)

Detailed passport information
Last name Hattula
First names Gust. Albanus
Other names *
Date of birth . .1874
Marital status 2
Religion Lut.
Occupation Taloll.
Home parish Evijärvi
Province VAA
Passport date . .1901
Passport number 0
Passport valid (year:month) 5:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by HKO
Remarks Sj vaimo ja 2 lasta.
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Detailed passport information
Last name Hattula
First names Hilma Mattsdotter
Other names *
Date of birth . .1875
Marital status 2
Religion Lut.
Occupation Taloll. vmo
Home parish Evijärvi
Province VAA
Passport date 13.09.1902
Passport number 1122
Passport valid (year:month) 0:0
Destination Amerikka
Passport issued by KOK
Remarks Sp lapset Kalle s. 1896 ja Selma s. 1899.
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Detailed passenger information
Last name Hattula
First names Kustaa
Age or age group 26
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination New York
State of destination NY
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 195
Ship from Finland Arcturus
Date of departure from Finland 25.05.1901
Ship from England *
Date of departure from England 99.99.9999
Ocean Line Cunard Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 17/9
Remarks *
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Detailed passenger information
Last name Hattula
First names Hilma
Age or age group 1N
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Calumet
State of destination MI
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket USD 33
Ship from Finland Polaris
Date of departure from Finland 04.10.1902
Ship from England Lucania
Date of departure from England 11.10.1902
Ocean Line Cunard Line
Port of departure in England *
List and page 29/20
Remarks Mk Kalle ja Selma Hattula.

Karen Norwillo
31-03-09, 21:53
Welcome back, cuz. We missed you. Karen

Denise
31-03-09, 22:09
Hello cousin Karen,
I've been busy remodeling my house and have had no time for anything lately. I miss you, Finlander Forum, and everyone else on here. I'm trying to find time for myself, which has been surprisingly very hard! But I'm back!!! :D

Love,
Denise

June Pelo
01-04-09, 01:41
What a welcome sight to see Denise back online again. Welcome - we missed you!

Denise
01-04-09, 04:18
Hi June,
Thank-you! :D

Love,
Denise

rachelsearls
01-04-09, 22:05
Thank you for your help. It much appreciated.

rachelsearls
04-04-09, 03:09
Is it fair to asume that the mother and father are the same person while I continue to research to be positive? This way I have some kind of direction to go? Thanks for any imput. This is so much fun to try and figure this stuff out.:)



Lehtimäki - christened

Years 1860 - 1880
Father's first name: KALLE => Carl
Father's patronymic: THOMANP => Thomas
Mother's first name: SANNA => Susanna, Sannaa
Born Christened Village Farm Father Mother Child

5.10.1867 6.10.1867 Tp. Karl Thoms. Hattula Sanna Eriksd:r 20-25 Hilda

28.6.1870 5.7.1870 Kaltiala Tp.s. Karl Thom.s. Hattula Sanna Eriksd:r 20-25 San: Lisa

5.8.1872 8.8.1872 Kaltiala Tp.p. Kaarle Tuomp. Hattula Sanna Erkint. 25-30 Maria W:mina

4.10.1874 11.10.1874 Hattula Tp. Kalle Herm. Tuomanp. Sanna Seraf. Erkintr. 27. Gustaf Albanus

18.11.1876 19.11.1876 Hattula Tp. Kalle Thomanp. Sanna Erkintr 30-35 Jakob


A total of 5 events found.