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Denise
18-04-09, 16:50
Hello,
I have a Sold: Anders Mårtensson Marss b.22.11.1734 married to Sara Johansdr. Härköis b. 8.10.1736. They had the following children:
Lisa b. 30.7.1762 Härköis torp.
Johannes b. 10.7.1765 Härköis
Hedvig b. 16.9.1768 Härköis torp.
Gabriel b. 15.8.1771 Härköis
Ericus b. 22.4.1774 Härköis
Petter b. 5.4.1777 Härköis torp. /twin
Brita b. 5.4.1777 Härköis torp./twin

Then I find on Hiski, Sold: Anders Mårtensson Marss and a Lisa Märtensdr. with twins born Härköis.

Virrat - Virdois - christened

* Years 1786 - 1786
* Birth place - village: HÄRKÖIS => Härköis
* Birth place - farm: HÄRKÖIS => Härköis, Härköis torp, Härköis tp, Härköis Q.gård
* Father's first name: ANDERS => Anders

Born Christened Village Farm Father Mother Child
*11.4.1786 11.4.1786 Härköis Sold. Anders Mårt:ss Mars Lisa Mårtenssd:r Staffan (oä)
original - AUTOMKAKSONEN: Useampi lapsi jaettu ohjelmallisesti kahdeksi tapahtumaksi. Alkuperäinen teksti: Staffan och Regina
*11.4.1786 11.4.1786 Härköis Sold. Anders Mårt:ss Mars Lisa Mårtenssd:r Regina (oä)
original - AUTOMKAKSONEN: Useampi lapsi jaettu ohjelmallisesti kahdeksi tapahtumaksi. Alkuperäinen teksti: Staffan och Regina

I am attaching an image for all to see. (please see next post below, as I forgot to attach the image)Please tell me that these children, Staffan and Regina, are not Lisa Andersdr. Marss b.30.7.1762 (daughter of Anders Mårtensson Marss b. 22.11.1734. I do not understand what I am reading on this image. :confused: Was Lisa's father, Anders, the father of these children? Also, what does (oä) mean after Staffan and Regina's names? OR, were Anders Märtensson Marss and Lisa Märtensdr. siblings?

Thank-you,
Denise

Denise
18-04-09, 16:53
Whoops! Forgot to attach the image from SSHY. :o

Denise

Karen Norwillo
18-04-09, 17:00
Denise,
oä means out-of-wedlock.

Denise
18-04-09, 17:08
Hi Cousin Karen,
Thank-you. I thought that's what (oä) meant and at one time had a cheat sheet for those abbreviations, but can't find it now. I haven't worked on my ancestry in such a long time that I've also forgotten how! :D

Best Regards,
Denise

harrysme
19-04-09, 10:02
It seems, that Anders Mårtensson Marss´s daughter Lisa got twins out-of-wedlock. Hiski is made quite wrong in that case.

Harry

Denise
19-04-09, 13:48
Hi Harry,
Thank-you for that logical answer. It is rare that I find an error on Hiski.

Best Regards,
Denise :)