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Ruokoja
12-07-09, 14:17
Hello,

I've been told that my gguncle who spent ca. 15 years in the States was a strong union man. He worked as a carpenter in NYC. I found this website: http://www.carpentersunionbc.com/Pages/northamericancarpenters.html and I wonder if there are any documents available for someone like me who wants to find out the past of a relative.

As you can see from the link list, there are three locals in NYC but only one, the local 608, has a year of foundation on their page: 1918. I think that could have been his union.

I'm interested to know if anyone knows whether there is any kind of information available and from where it could be found. Thanks!

Karen Norwillo
12-07-09, 15:08
It might help if you give us your relative's name and any pertinent info that might help locate him on any lists of union members. Date of birth and approximate years in US, when to when.

Ruokoja
12-07-09, 17:13
Hi Karen,

I was kind of prepared to find information by myself, since I have lately searched relatives in Finland in that way. But I appreciate any help.

This relative's name is Ludvig Ruokoja, b. 11.1.1890 in Kälviä Finland. According to the church book he left for US in 1915 but I have "1 October 1913" on a piece of paper. This date is from ellisisland.org. He went to Carbonado WA, and he lived by John Annonen family in Precsott, Lewis, WA (http://finlander.genealogia.fi/showpost.php?p=25760&postcount=2). He might also have lived in Winlock, WA, too, by Walter Annonen. He worked as a carpenter in the Big Apple and was strong with the union, as I mentioned.

The date of departure from US is not clear. I think he left 24 July 1932 and went via Finland(?) to Soviet Karelia. But that's not sure. I also have a note which says his last residence might have been Castle Rock, WA.

Ludvig's brother Vihtori/Victor lived in WA state which explains why he went over there. A rumour has it that Vihtori's daughter had told her children about a relative who she met as a little girl but she couldn't be sure who he was. Probably Ludvig. This visitor was going to New York, and she never saw him again. This would explain this west-east coast question.

I wish to find as much information as I can because we are planning a big family reunion for the next summer and there'll be a presentation about Ludvig.

kivinen1
12-07-09, 20:50
Wasn't this discussed awhile back? http://finlander.genealogia.fi/archive/index.php/t-5710.html

Ruokoja
12-07-09, 23:08
Wasn't this discussed awhile back? http://finlander.genealogia.fi/archive/index.php/t-5710.html

Yes and no. The link I earlier gave above leads to the same discussion, I referred to it in my posting. But this time I'm looking for information about his years as a member of the carpenters' union, NYC.

kivinen1
12-07-09, 23:20
There was once a link for the Työmies Society that provided a list of all of the magazine subscribers to their Veljesviesti or their version of the magazine.

I wonder if the SFHS has a list?

Denise
12-07-09, 23:46
Hi,
Here is Ludvig's passenger record from the Institute of Migration.
Regards,
Denise

Detailed passenger information
Last name Ruokoja
First names Ludvig
Age or age group 23
Port of departure Hanko
Place of destination Carbonado
State of destination WA
Country of destination USA
Price of ticket FIM 551
Ship from Finland Titania
Date of departure from Finland 17.09.1913
Ship from England Olympic
Date of departure from England 24.09.1913
Ocean Line White Star Line
Port of departure in England Southampton
List and page 98/70
Remarks *

Ruokoja
12-07-09, 23:49
Thanks, Denise!

I guess you get that much information only if you pay for it (= use of their database)?

Denise
13-07-09, 06:18
Hi,
Yes, the Institute of Migration is a pay site, but I've found it very helpful, and the annual price is very reasonable. I think I paid about $22. US dollars.

Best Regards,
Denise :)