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Kalle
23-07-10, 20:25
Hello:
I am looking for information of my gr-gr-grandmother's parents and their families.
Information I have is Maria's father was Johan Fredrik Fredrikson Makela born February 5 1821 possibly in Isojoki and he died October 5 1855. I can not find proof of where he was born or who his parents were.
Maria's mother was Serifia Jakobsdotter. I think born December 17 1821. I think in Kjellfjard. I think her parents were Jakob Michelsson Vestergard and Juljana Johansdotter. But I am not sure I have enough proof.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Kalle

Karen Norwillo
24-07-10, 15:53
From Hiski
17.12.1821 Ahlainen, Kjellfjerd, Jakob Vestergård and Juljana Johansdotter..Serafia
other siblings
20.5.1815 Johan
3.9.1817 Gustaf
14.12.1819 Jakob
16.10.1850 Kellfjerd village, Jakob Westergård died 71y 8 mos old age
6.9.1866 Nederby village, Juljana Johansdotter 67y 5 mos tyfus
I found a marriage for a Juljana Jakobsdotter of Nederby village, Ahlainen on 20.11.1856 to a Johan Fredrik Andersson Norrvik , says at Svartvik. I don't know if this is the correct couple. I found no births for a Johan Fredrik in 1821 in Isojoki. There are only 2 matching births using the "all" search.
5.2.1821 Kankaanpää, Jyräkoski farm to Anna Maria Esaiasdotter 40...Johan Fredrik äö
5.2.1821 Kuopio, Putosalmi village, Clemens Soinin and Britha Turiun..Johan Fredrik

Kaarina
24-07-10, 17:39
Hi. Perhaps it is this John Fredrik b. 5/12/1821 in Kankaanpää.

Kankaanpää - christened

Years 1821 -
Child's first name: JOH => Johan, Johanna, John
Born Christened Village Farm Father Mother Child

5.2.1821 11.2.1821 Jyräkoski Deij. Anna Maija Esaiasdr. 40 Johan Fredrik (oä)

http://hiski.genealogia.fi/hiski/2fypd7

Could not find this, John Fredrik, FFHA's side in Kankaanpää and Jyräkoski. Do you know where and when they are married.

http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/index_eng.htm


Kaarina

Kalle
24-07-10, 17:48
Thank you Karen for looking up this information. That's what I found on HisKi for Serifia's parents as the best match.
Have a great day
Kalle

Kalle
24-07-10, 18:02
Kaarina:
What I have found on HisKi.
Is a marriage in 1847
Johan Fredrik Fredriksson Kienokoski and Serifia Jakobsdotter Antila
I think this is my ancestors. Maria's parents.
Thanks for your help.
Kalle

Kaarina
24-07-10, 18:20
Kaarina:
What I have found on HisKi.
Is a marriage in 1847
Johan Fredrik Fredriksson Kienokoski and Serifia Jakobsdotter Antila
I think this is my ancestors. Maria's parents.
Thanks for your help.
Kalle



Where's Maria was born and when. Would facilitate the search.

Kaarina

Kaarina
24-07-10, 18:24
Found this. Is your Maria b. 21/? 1852

http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/isojoki/rippikirja_1846-1855_uk180-181/144.htm

Kaarina

Karen Norwillo
24-07-10, 20:37
Sorry about the mix-up with the marriage. I got the bride's names confused when I searched. Obviously, I should have searches Serafia Jakobsdotter, not her mother.
On Norrmark, the only birth that shows is Leander Mäkelä, none of the other children.:(

Kaarina
24-07-10, 21:00
Serafia (Sofia?) Can be in this family.

Ahlainen - christened

Years 1804 -
Father's first name: JAC => Jacob
Mother's first name: JUL => Juliana
Mother's patronymic: JO => Jacobs, Joachims, Joels, Johans, Jonas, Jonathans, Josefs, Josuas, Jörans, Johancss:, Jonac:d:r, Jonacss:, Jorac:d:r, Jonathan:d:r, Jonathansd:r, Joseffsd:r, Joakimss:, Josiasd:r, Joakimsd:r, Joh:tyt:, Josefintyt:, Jonanpoik:, Josepintyt:, Joseeanp:, Joakims:, Johan-Erikintr., Joonanp.
Born Christened Village Farm Father Mother Child

23.8.1805 25.8.1805 Kielfjerd Sädes Tp: Jakob Mickelss: Juljana Joh:d:r Maria

8.7.1808 10.7.1808 Kiellfjerd drg: Jacob Michelss: Juljana Johansd:r Lovisa

8.11.1810 11.11.1810 Kellfjerd tp: Jacob Michelss: Juliana Joh:d:r Lovisa

15.10.1812 16.10.1812 Kellfjerd tp: Jacob Michelss: Juljana Johansd:r Job

20.5.1815 23.5.1815 Kellfjerd tp: Jacob Vestergård Juljana Johansd:r Johan

3.9.1817 7.9.1817 Kjellfjerd lbd: Jacob Vestergård Juljana Johansd:r Gustaf

14.12.1819 15.12.1819 Kjellfjerd L: Bde: Jakob Vestergård Juljana Joh:d:r Jakob

17.12.1821 18.12.1821 Kjellfjerd Bde: Jakob Westergård Juljana Joh:d:r Seraphia


A total of 8 events found.

And their marriage.

Ahlainen - married

Years 1804 -
Man's first name: JAC => Jacob
Wife's first name: JUL => Juliana
Announc. Married Village Farm Man Wife Village Farm

4.10.1804 Kiellfierd drg: Jacob Mickss: p: Juljana Joh:d:r Kiellfierd

Kaarina

Kaarina
24-07-10, 21:13
Again, this family. Westergård., Serafia apparently not here, but maybe in later books.

http://digi.narc.fi/digi/fullpic.ka?kuid=4739734

Kaarina

Kaarina
24-07-10, 21:28
Again, this family. Westergård., Serafia apparently not here, but maybe in later books.

http://digi.narc.fi/digi/fullpic.ka?kuid=4739734

Kaarina

The couple apparently married and even in Lappfjärd Serafia is maid.

Lappfjärd - Lapväärtti - married

Years 1846 -
Wife's first name: SER => Serafiina
Wife's patronymic: JA => Jacobs, Jans, Joachims, Jahansson, jacobi6p, jacobi6
Announc. Married Village Farm Man Wife Village Farm

6.9.1846 1846 Drg Johan Fredrik Fredriks:s Pgn Serafia Jacobsdr Antila

Kaarina
26-07-10, 08:30
Hello:
I am looking for information of my gr-gr-grandmother's parents and their families.
Information I have is Maria's father was Johan Fredrik Fredrikson Makela born February 5 1821 possibly in Isojoki and he died October 5 1855. I can not find proof of where he was born or who his parents were.
Maria's mother was Serifia Jakobsdotter. I think born December 17 1821. I think in Kjellfjard. I think her parents were Jakob Michelsson Vestergard and Juljana Johansdotter. But I am not sure I have enough proof.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Kalle



Would only fix this Serafias information. Found that Serafia in Ahlainen, and she is married to another man there. This Serafia who is married to John Fredrik Fredriksson, is this. Serafia Johansdr. Antila. There are some Antila in Honkajoki / Kankaanpää.

Isojoki married.
http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/isojoki/vihityt_1812-1877_uk182/37.htm

Kaarina