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June Pelo
21-09-11, 17:21
Does anyone know about Lumijoki death records... what is included and for what years... I have a query about them..

Jaska Sarell
21-09-11, 18:10
Part of the records burned in the fire of the church on 14 June 1882, all the rest burned in the fire of the vicarage on 17 Jan 1902 :(
Above information in Finnish from HisKi additional info (http://hiski.genealogia.fi/seurakunnat/srk?CMD=SRK&ID=308&TYPE=HTML&LANG=FI)

However, there's a publication by Oulu Genealogical Society called "Lumijoen seurakunnassa kuolleita 1825-1866" (Deaths in Lumijoki parish 1825-1866), Oulu 1989, 39 pages, 951-96177-1-X
Another useful book by same society concerning Lumijoki is "Lumijoen rokotusluetteloita 1811-1903" (Lumijoki vaccination records 1811-1903), Oulu 1991, 358 pages, 951-96177-5-2
Languages: Finnish, Swedish.
Both listed on GSF library reference bookshelf (not available for loan).

BTW. I've got some interest in Lumijoki, since my grandson's male line goes through it, and will look at these books in the near future.

:) Jaska

June Pelo
21-09-11, 20:21
Thanks, Jaska. I had a query about it and I'll pass the info. along. Maybe he'll contact you further.

Jaska Sarell
08-10-11, 17:18
June,
The booklet of Lumijoki deaths was available today at the GSF stand on an annual genealogy happening here in Vantaa. I naturally bought the other of remaining two :D
It is collected from court record attachments, some years have death dates and ages, some have names only, a few years are missing. But it does not have any data from possible estate inventories.
I'll be glad to make any lookups from the booklet!

:) Jaska

immortalmorpheu
09-10-11, 09:35
Hello Jaska,
I was wondering if you could look up the last name Daavittila for me in the death records. Thanks in advance

Michael Bankston



June,
The booklet of Lumijoki deaths was available today at the GSF stand on an annual genealogy happening here in Vantaa. I naturally bought the other of remaining two :D
It is collected from court record attachments, some years have death dates and ages, some have names only, a few years are missing. But it does not have any data from possible estate inventories.
I'll be glad to make any lookups from the booklet!

:) Jaska

Jaska Sarell
09-10-11, 10:58
Hello Michael,
As the booklet is hard to find, I think I can reply publicly on the list. Hopefully this is useful.

These Daavittilas can be found:
HT25: 14.5.1825 Inhyses qvinnan Brita Bertilsdr Davidila 57
VT28: 26.12.1827 Gamla bonden Isaac Davidila 74
VT30: 16.1.1830 Sytningsm. Eric Davidila 59
VT32: 10.12.1831 Bonden Anders Davidilas hustru Maria 20
HT33: 17.5.1833 Bonden Anders Johansson Davidila 45
HT33: 14.10.1833 Bonde sonen Anders Davidila 27
VT34: 28.1.1834 Förra bonde enkan Carin Davidila 64
VT40: 12.1.1840 Bonden Hendric Davidilas hustru Lisa 38
VT41 (26.4.1841): (no date, probably after HT40 on 30.11.1840) Bonden Samuel Davidila 52
VT47: 10.1.1847 Rotfattiga g:la pigan Anna Davidila 74 11 29
VT56: 20.3.1856 Bondedr Brita Caisa Samuelsdr Daavidila 32 10 19
VT59: (no date, between 29.10.1858 and 20.4.1959) Sytnings gumman Lisa Thomaedr Daavidila (no age)
VT59: (no date, between 29.10.1858 and 20.4.1959) Gårdsvärdinnan Greta Johansdr Daavidila (no age)
HT64 (26.11.1864): (no date, probably after VT64 on 29.4.1864) Fattighjonet Greta Mattsdr Daavidila (no age)

VT = vinterting, HT = höstting

:) Jaska

immortalmorpheu
09-10-11, 13:43
Thanks so much Jaska! I am sure I will be able to use this in my research.

solja
18-01-12, 00:13
Hi!

Haven't been here for long time...

Did you solve your Daavidila problem?

At the moment I am copying a hand-written catalogue of Lumijoki inventories of an estate of a deceased person - to MSExcel format.
There are several Daavidilas.

The deceased person with his/her profession, death date or the date of the inventory - spouse and descendants. Females with their maiden names, at least sometimes. Patronymes mentioned quite often. Siblings etc.

-Solja

(from Oulu Genealogical Society http://suvut.genealogia.fi/oulu/)

immortalmorpheu
18-01-12, 02:32
Hi Solja,

I am still researching the Daavittila line. I would love to see what information that you have. I did see your response on another thread that was posted. That Juho and Markeeta are my relatives. If you wish I have a email address you can contact me at. lquinta6486(at)gmail.com. Thanks very much for responding.

Michael Bankston

solja
18-01-12, 11:41
Hi Michael,

I will e-mail to you the Davidilas I have in my Excel.

I also noticed that there are 52 persons on the sheet with marking "Amerikassa" - "in America".

At the moment I have entered total 3800 persons of which 651 are deceased.

In half way :-)

-Solja

Ruokoja
19-01-12, 19:03
Hello,

I'd have a Riitta Taavettila (Brita Daavittila?) who married Juho Johan's son Granlund (former Pirkola, born October 10, 1834 in Hailuoto (Ojakylä village)) in Lumijoki in 1856. I don't know where Riitta was born. Does anyone know more about her?

solja
19-01-12, 20:24
Hi,

I suppose this is the inventory of Riitta Daavittila's (Taavettila) mother:

Lumijoki, Lapinniemi village:

Liisa Tuomaant Daavidila died 15.1.1859, spouse Perttu Daavidila.

Children

Juho Pertunp Daavidila (16 years during his mother's death).
Matleena Pertunt Räinä (nee Daavidila), spouse Matti Räinä.
Riitta Pertunt Granlund (nee Daavidila), spouse Juho Granlund.

The marriage with Perttu Daavidila was the second for deceased Liisa (the mother).
First spouse was Heikki Väänänen - two sons from this marriage Matti and Heikki.

-Solja

This may be the first marriage with Heikki Väänänen - Ylikiiminki parish - must be checked

2.7.1819 B.s. Henr. Math:ae Wänänen Pig. Elisab. Thomae Kylmänen
18.5.1820 Henric Math.ae Wäänänen Elisabet Mathias
12.4.1822 Henric Wäänänen Lisa 20 Henrik

4.12.1829 26.12.1829 Bd. Henr. Wänänen nerffeb. 32 (typhoid fever)

Väänänen is a very common surname in Ylikiiminki.

solja
19-01-12, 20:39
Michael, did you receive the Daavidila excel?

I sent it yesterday to your email address mentioned above.

Found more info, too.

-Solja

solja
19-01-12, 21:23
More for Ruokoja:

I have a book written by Assar Väänänen (a relative to my husband and born in Ylikiiminki).

Heikki Matinp Väänänen b. 14.3.1797, d. 4.12.1829 in Ylikiiminki, spouse, married 2.7.1819 in Ylikiiminki, Elisabet (Liisa) Tuomaant Kylmänen b. 25.7.1797 (children mentioned).

Elisabet is obviously this one, born in Ylikiiminki:

25.7.1797 30.7.1797 Thomas Petri Kylmänen Elisabeth Jacobi Parckinen Elisabeth

As a widow Lisa married Bertil (=Perttu) Antinp Kinnunen (b. 1800):

16.4.1831 Drg. Bertil Kinnunen B.e:an Lisa Thomae Kylmänen el. Wänänen
15.4.1832 Bd. Bertil Wänänen Lisa 35 Anna Caisa
29.5.1834 Bd. Bertil Wänänen Elisabet 42 Magdalena
3.2.1837 Bd. Bertill Wäänänen Elisabeth 40 Brita
7.2.1840 Bd. Bertil Wäänänen Elisabet 42 Anders

Assar Väänänen writes "in 1843 the family moved to Lumijoki" - so...

-Solja

solja
19-01-12, 23:34
...and surprise - Thomas Kylmänen & Lisa Parkkinen are also my ancestors and I have them in my database :-)

-Solja

immortalmorpheu
19-01-12, 23:51
HI SOLJA,

Yes i did receive the excel file. Thank you so much for that info. This helps to confirm a suspicion i had about johan and margareta. I talked with someone from the lumijoki parish amd they said margaretas names was olofsdtr hirvaskari but i checked amd could only find WA margareta ericsdotter hirvaskari. I just now need to confirm johan's birth date and year.



Michael, did you receive the Daavidila excel?

I sent it yesterday to your email address mentioned above.

Found more info, too.

-Solja

solja
20-01-12, 10:05
This may be worth of note:

Iisak Iisakinp Hirvaskari (b. 23.1.1769 Lumijoki, d. 29.10.1835 Siikajoki) spouse Kaarina Erkint (b. 19.10.1780 Lumijoki, d. as a widow 28.3.1864 Siikajoki).

Family came from Lumijoki 29.3.1810 -> to Revonlahti and from Revonlahti 23.3.1818 to -> Siikajoki, Hirvaskari r:n 58. Former surnames Anttila, Lahdenperä.

Children

Iisak Iisakinp b. 16.11.1798 obviously Lumijoki
Kaarina Iisakint b. 4.6.1804 obviously Lumijoki
Erkki Iisakinp b. 17.12.1806 obviously Lumijoki
Juho Iisakinp b. 12.4.1810 Revonlahti, died as a child
Antti Iisakinp b. 16.3.1812 Revonlahti
Riitta Iisakint b. 25.2.1815 Revonlahti
Kustaa Iisakinp b. 6.11.1817 Revonlahti
Jaakko Iisakinp b. 14.6.1820 Siikajoki
Anna Helena Iisakint b. 1.2.1823 Siikajoki

Maybe your Marketta Erkint Hirvaskari came from this family? Actually this family was originally Anttila from Lumijoki. Siikajoki parish books should be checked.
Hirvaskari is not a Lumijoki family name, most of them are from Siikajoki.

-Solja

immortalmorpheu
20-01-12, 20:59
Hi again Solja,

Yes this is actually Margareta's family. I checked the Siikajoki church books and they match. However I think they have Eric Isaacsson as 27/12/1806 not 17/12/1806. But it is the same family. Thanks for that info. I will add it to my tree.

Michael.

solja
20-01-12, 23:24
I made a research for one lady last month and she had this family also, the first Hirvaskari for me ever.
She is a descendant of Kustaa Isakinp Hirvaskari (b. 6.11.1817 Revonlahti, lived in Pramila/Castell house, nr 9) in Siikajoki.
Kustaa's wife was Riitta Heikintytär Huhta (b. 1.1.1808 Paavola (former Lievonen)).

Good luck :-)

-Solja

Mary Lukkarila
06-02-12, 18:46
I believe this is my family, my 3rd great grandfather was Isak Lukkarila Hirvaskari, born 01 Nov 1798, Lumijoki, died 25 Feb 1857, Siikajoki. I have been seeking information about this family, but not too much found because of a fire that destroyed records in Lumijoki.

solja
06-02-12, 19:15
Hi,

Farmer Iisak Iisakinpoika Hirvaskari and his wife Kaarina Erkintytär lived in 1810-18 Revonlahti Lahdenperä farm r:nr 10 and used surname Lahdenperä. Revonlahti church books 1813-19 mention that Iisak was originally Antila from Lumijoki.

Revonlahti older book tells that family came from Lumijoki 29.3.1810. Obviously the eldest children Iisak, Kaarina and Erkki were born in Lumijoki.

Lumijoki inventory catalogue (deceased persons) tells about May 1820 deceased Iisak Pekanpoika Antila, spouse Kaisa Samulintytär Hemmi and children Samuli, Iisak, Kustaa, Juho, Riitta and Kaisa.

This could be the family of Iisak Hirvaskari, but we cannot be 100% sure about that.

Regards,

-Solja

Mary Lukkarila
07-02-12, 02:09
Thanks Solja. I keep hoping that there is someone left in Finland from the family who knows for certain the history. So far I have not found anyone. It was my great grandfather, Jacob Lukkarila who left for America from Rantsila. He was born in Siikajoki. As far as I know he was the only one of his brothers and sisters to leave Finland. Too much time has passed to find current relatives. They are the only family in Finland that I have not been able to connect with.
Best regards, Mary

solja
07-02-12, 10:57
When your great grandfather Jacob Lukkarila was born and when he left Finland?

Hirvaskari
---> Iisak Iisakinp b. 16.11.1798 obviously Lumijoki
Kaarina Iisakint b. 4.6.1804 obviously Lumijoki
---> Erkki Iisakinp b. 17.12.1806 obviously Lumijoki
Juho Iisakinp b. 12.4.1810 Revonlahti, died as a child
Antti Iisakinp b. 16.3.1812 Revonlahti
Riitta Iisakint b. 25.2.1815 Revonlahti
---> Kustaa Iisakinp b. 6.11.1817 Revonlahti
Jaakko Iisakinp b. 14.6.1820 Siikajoki
Anna Helena Iisakint b. 1.2.1823 Siikajoki

Your 3rd great grandfather was Isak Iisakinpoika, Michael's ?rd great grandfather was Erkki Isakinpoika and this lady from Finland is a descendant of Kustaa Iisakinpoika Hirvaskari.

She (her first name is Anneli and she lives in Haukipudas, near Oulu) is writing a book of her family at the moment and I checked some ancestors for her. Lumijoki is more or less a black box to researchers.

Anneli's father's grandmother was Kaisa Sofia Kustaantytär Lukkarila (Pramila/Lahdenperä/Hirvaskari, b. 4.3.1848 Siikajoki). She had a very colourful life, was married 3 times. Her first husband was Antti (Anders) Juhonpoika Majava (b. 5.5.1850 Siikajoki, d. 1875 in USA). He was only 25 years old and family does not know what happened, how he died, what he did for living etc. Some kind of information of his death was received 30.6.1876 from Michigan. Kaisa and Antti had one daughter, Liisa Sofia Majava.

In Siikajoki there is a story that total 15 young men went to USA at the same time, one of those obviously this Antti Majava. One is known for sure, Juho Laurinperttu (b. 16.11.1853). It would be nice to know if this story is true.

-Solja

Mary Lukkarila
07-02-12, 14:06
My great grandfather Jacob was born 01 Jan 1858 in Siikajoki. I think he came to U.S. around 1882. He married Anna Liza Äijälä in Rantsila in 1881. They had a daughter Jenny and came to the U.S., Michigan. Next child, John, is born in Michigan in 1883. Many years later, Jacob's nephew came to the U.S. I do not know who his father was, but his last name was Lukkarila. As far as I know, they were the only two in the family in the U.S. Family stories talk about seamen in the family. Other stories say that they had a store in Siikajoki. None of it has been confirmed, and so I am curious about what happened to the family and whether they know more about the history.

Mary

solja
07-02-12, 15:59
Checked these Hirvaskari-Lukkarila families and I think you are correct, this is the right family.

Bd.enkl. Isaac Isaacss. Hirvaskari (b. 16.11.1798 or 1.11.1798) - from his first marriage with Bd.d:r Lisa Hytinkoski d. 23.3.1822 (2nd wife Bd.d:r Carin Anders d:r Nevala, married 29.6.1835 Siikajoki)
son Samuel (b. 4.11.1821 Paavola), other siblings, too


Drg. Samuel Hirvaskari (b. 4.11.1821 or 11.11.1821) Bd.d:r Brita Jacobsd:r Pramila (b. 9.1.1821), married 31.11.1842
son Jacob (b. 1.1.1858), other siblings, see http://www.sukuhistoria.fi/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/siikajoki/rippikirja_1851-1864_ik49-50/312.htm

Have you tried to find Jacob's siblings and their families via SukuForum?
http://suku.genealogia.fi/index.php


-Solja

Mary Lukkarila
07-02-12, 18:48
I don't think I have tried SukuForum as I do not write or speak Finnish. I did post to Finngen a long time ago and tried on other forums in English language. Thank you for the link to the SSHY page. It sounded like the entire family left Siikajoki when my great grandfather left. I don't know if it is true. There are many stories but little facts. You have given me some new information. Thanks again. Mary

solja
07-02-12, 21:54
I have added a request to SukuForum, see

http://suku.genealogia.fi/showpost.php?p=109497&postcount=5

Hope someone will answer :-)

-Solja

Mary Lukkarila
08-02-12, 02:32
Kiitos paljon! I hope someone answers. Mary