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June Pelo
23-09-11, 20:55
I have a request for information on death dates of these people:
Anders Samuelsson Rutanen, b. ca Jan 1794, Viitasaari. Moved to Turku 1821, and then not heard from again.. could he have died in Hauho ca 1841?

Johan Mattsson Reipsar-Domars-Dumell, b. 11 Dec 1823, Karleby. To Viborg 1866. Did he die there?

KKujansuu
24-09-11, 12:45
About Johan Dumell: I don't have a death date but found the following page: http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kaarlela/rippikirja_1866-1872_mko180-186/80.htm. I think it says that he moved to Norway in 1868?

Kari

June Pelo
24-09-11, 16:28
Thank you, Kari. I'll pass the information on.

KKujansuu
24-09-11, 18:31
Thanks June. The other one was not too hard either, with the help of Hiski and FFHA:

It seems that Anders Rutanen did not move to Turku. Instead he married Caisa Pekkarinen in Viitasaari in 1821 and then moved with his family to Kivijärvi in 1827. He died there in the Kuivaniemi village on January 15, 1867, see http://www.digiarkisto.org/sshy/kirjat/Kirkonkirjat/kivijarvi/rippikirja_1865-1874_mko39-48/156.htm.

Kari

June Pelo
24-09-11, 22:13
Kari,

Thanks for that new info. It helps solve an old mystery..

RiittaB
03-10-11, 16:52
I have Anders and Caisa in my tree. They had 2 sons Antti b.Dec.21, 1885 and Samuli b.Aug.4,1829. Samuli married on Dec.26, 1850 to Liisa Antintytär Pekkarinen (b.Aug.23,1929) and had 2 sons Heikki b.Oct.14, 1851 and Matti b. Oct.8, 1854.

Riitta

June Pelo
03-10-11, 17:16
Riitta,

Samuel and Lisa's son Henrik was the great grandfather of my cousin Adrian Niemi, who lives in Minnesota.

Karen Norwillo
04-10-11, 17:40
June,
That first son, Antti can't be correct DOB. He was born after his father died. Plus, there is 56 years between births. Typo??

June Pelo
04-10-11, 17:55
Karen,

Yes, I noticed that and assumed she typed the wrong year.. Anders was Adrian's mother's grandfather, and he gave me a birth date of 1 Dec 1825.

Karen Norwillo
04-10-11, 19:08
Yes. FFHA shows birth of Anders on that date in Viitasaari.
24.6.1821 Anders Samuelss Rutanen married Caisa Henricsdr Peckarinen of Wuorilax farm in Viitasaari.
11.6.1828 Nikkilä born to same couple in Kivijärvi.
4.8.1829 same place, Samuel born.

June Pelo
04-10-11, 19:51
Thanks, Karen. I didn't have Nikkilä - so will add that.

Karen Norwillo
06-10-11, 00:20
June,
Whoever did the transcribing on Hiski made an error. The child born 11.6.1828 was named Samuel. He must have died because the child born 4.8.1829 was also named Samuel. They must have confused the name of the place with the child.

June Pelo
06-10-11, 01:12
Karen,

Thank you for your sharp eyes... I'll make the change.